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Harrison Stone 1010299
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Harrison Stone 1010299
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How do I select a ARTCC if the academy is down?

Harrison Stone

VATUSA

Student-1

*No ARTCC Yet*

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Keith Smith
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From the VATUSA website:

If you are prusuing a virtual ATC career within VATUSA, please complete the following steps:

 

Take the Basic Controller Exam:

 

http://www.vatusa.org/certcenter/index.php

 

Upon p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing this exam, you will be promoted to a Student 1 and able to select your ARTCC.

 

After deciding on an ARTCC and having the included p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word use the following link to join your ARTCc.

 

http://www.vatusa.org/pick_artcc.php

 

Here are the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]words for the ARTCCs! Make sure to read up on your artcc at http://eval.vatusa.org

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That info is directly from th NEW MEMBERS CLICK HERE page.

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Robert Chapin 998334
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Keith, do you know how I should proceed as well? The pick_artcc page tells me to use the transfer page and the train page tells me my name is missing.

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Keith Smith
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Robert,

 

If it's telling you to use the xfer form, you must already be a member of an ARTCC. You said the 'train' page says your name is missing. Did you try the ARTCC Transfer Form, available on the left side of the VATUSA site?

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Tom Ferry 942166
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use the transfer form....if that doesnt work....email me please

Tom Ferry

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Robert Chapin 998334
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Okay.

 

"Your request to transfer to a new ARTCC is now being processed. Transfer to a new ARTCC requires the approval of the Chief of your new, requested ARTCC. This process normally does takes three business days to be completed."

 

And the confirmation email says,

 

"This is to confirm your request to transfer from the Training Academy - Removed ARTCC to the Cleveland ARTCC."

 

Whatever that means!

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Robert Chapin 998334
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It's going on "3 business days" now and I'm still nowhere. I just want to sign up for an ATC cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts].

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Tom Ferry 942166
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Please email the ATM that Xfer request is resting in his hands.

Tom Ferry

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Mark Brummett
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And please also keep in mind that the ATMs and DATMs are real people; I know my ATM is on vacation at this very moment, and sometimes the DATM does not have the means to complete the transfer.

Mark Brummett

Website owner, http://www.zkcartcc.org

ZKC Events Co-ordinator

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Stephen Keskitalo 977981
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And please also keep in mind that the ATMs and DATMs are real people; I know my ATM is on vacation at this very moment, and sometimes the DATM does not have the means to complete the transfer.

Why not?

 

If the ATM is on vacation, isn't that what the DATM is there for? The ATM should give his DATM all the tools necessary to fulfill the daily tasks of the ATM while he's away. I'm not saying he should give the DATM all of the responsibilities of the ATM, only those necessary for the mundane day-to-day operations, like transfer application processing.

 

I'm just trying to give a helpful suggestion, so if my tone seems confrontational, please don't take it that way.

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Mark Brummett
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And please also keep in mind that the ATMs and DATMs are real people; I know my ATM is on vacation at this very moment, and sometimes the DATM does not have the means to complete the transfer.

Why not?

 

If the ATM is on vacation, isn't that what the DATM is there for? The ATM should give his DATM all the tools necessary to fulfill the daily tasks of the ATM while he's away. I'm not saying he should give the DATM all of the responsibilities of the ATM, only those necessary for the mundane day-to-day operations, like transfer application processing.

 

I'm just trying to give a helpful suggestion, so if my tone seems confrontational, please don't take it that way.

 

Transferring requires access to a secure website that the DATM sometimes is not privy to, if that answers your question. I was always a little leery of giving out the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word since instructions stated (at least when I was ATM) in the email with the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word to not give it out. That may or may not have changed since then.

Mark Brummett

Website owner, http://www.zkcartcc.org

ZKC Events Co-ordinator

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Robert Chapin 998334
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I got in touch with the DATM through www.zobartcc.org/smf/ We seem to be on track now. Thanks for the guidance.

 

fyi there were two problems we had to work out. #1 The transfer system rejected my email address when the local part contained "vatsim". #2 The other errors at the train.vatusa.org website seem to be moot because I don't need to use that website now. Both of these lead to some confusion and maybe this feedback will be helpful.

 

Enjoy

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