Howard Brennan 980082 Posted July 29, 2007 at 02:45 PM Posted July 29, 2007 at 02:45 PM The Vatsim websites for these charts are not active. Navigraph payware does not seem to cover these countries. I want to fly over them. Can someone direct me to a download site for charts please? Thank you Howard EGBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted July 29, 2007 at 05:25 PM Posted July 29, 2007 at 05:25 PM Howard, tell me what airports you need or want, and I will give you a link for download Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan dieguez 842483 Posted July 29, 2007 at 09:50 PM Posted July 29, 2007 at 09:50 PM Venezuela Enroute http://guzzoa.tripod.com/gen_cartas_ruta.htm App http://guzzoa.tripod.com/gen_cartas_app.htm Colombia http://www.colatc.org/descargas/cartas/ check the ones here as well https://164.214.2.62/products/usfif/terminals/enroutelist.cfm?charttype=enroutechartscur&country=Caribbean_South%20America Hope it helps Best Regards JD www.swvirtual.com.ar http://www.artcc-argentino.com.ar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted July 30, 2007 at 02:59 PM Author Posted July 30, 2007 at 02:59 PM Thank you both for your help. Perhaps I should explain that I would like to fly in stages of about 500 to 800 miles North to South down the west side of South America using Vatsim. So I am not sure which airports to use. Any advice would be appreciated. Charts in Spannish may be a problem for me to read written instructions. I am OK for charts in Ecuador and Peru as I have these in English. Regards Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted July 30, 2007 at 06:42 PM Posted July 30, 2007 at 06:42 PM Maybe you can start in this way: Caracas - Bogota - Quito - Lima - Santiago....etc.... Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggrey Ellis 964561 Posted July 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM Posted July 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM Dont forget Guayaquil! ZLA I11 VATCAF S1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:17 AM Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:17 AM Dont forget Guayaquil! Yes, but Quito is more funny and difficult Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:45 PM Author Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:45 PM Thank you all for the advice. I have in the last few days flown out of Quito on two occasions. The controller there is most helpful. He directed me to guayaquil-fir.org where I downloaded charts in English (I notice you have also this address) so last evening I flew from SEQU to SPIM and also had a controller at Spim. I will take your advice ref airports and would appreciate any help for English charts for Caracas,Bogota, La Paz, Santiago and Punta Arenas. Then I will do the complete flight in stages. My thanks to all who replied. Its great to have so many helpful people in this great hobby of ours. Happy Flying Howard (EGGB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:48 PM Author Posted July 31, 2007 at 01:48 PM Should be Howard (EGBB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted July 31, 2007 at 03:32 PM Posted July 31, 2007 at 03:32 PM Thank you all for the advice. I have in the last few days flown out of Quito on two occasions. The controller there is most helpful. He directed me to guayaquil-fir.org where I downloaded charts in English (I notice you have also this address) so last evening I flew from SEQU to SPIM and also had a controller at Spim. I will take your advice ref airports and would appreciate any help for English charts for Caracas,Bogota, La Paz, Santiago and Punta Arenas. Then I will do the complete flight in stages.My thanks to all who replied. Its great to have so many helpful people in this great hobby of ours. Happy Flying Howard (EGGB) Howard, I have that link in my signature because I am Ecuador Guayaquil FIR Director I have uploaded some charts to TAME Virtual server, you can find it here: http://www.tamevirtual.org/cartas/ All charts in english, good flight and see you soon in Ecuador Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 1, 2007 at 09:04 AM Author Posted August 1, 2007 at 09:04 AM Hi Nicolas How kind of you to provide me with all the charts in English, fantastic. I will definately be flying the route North to south and back again. Your colleague Fernando Bueno (Quito) directed me to a site for Ecuador, so I have downloaded all Ecuador airport sceneries and Ecuador Mesh and that makes a huge difference to FS9 for me. You people are incredibly helpful. I thank you and everyone else for their help. See you next week hopefully, look out for BAW 181 that's me. I usually start flying 5pm UK time most days. Best regards Howard EGBB Guess I should have Ecuador aircraft livery but BA will have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 4, 2007 at 03:09 PM Author Posted August 4, 2007 at 03:09 PM I have down loaded all charts. Thank you so much. I have a question ref the approach to Rwy 17 at SEQU Quito. I fly using FS Navigator. After reaching DAGMA via PACTO,INTAG or KOLTA the remaining descent intersections ARPOL,BUVUL,GATUB are missing in FS Navigator. Also if missed approach is required UI092,UI099 are missing. I have Emailed Stephan at NavData in the hope he will add them as they are not in Airac 0708. It would be helpful if someone could tell me the co-ordinates so that I could p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] them on to him. Is that possible please? Many thanks Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted August 5, 2007 at 04:31 AM Posted August 5, 2007 at 04:31 AM Howard, simple, make a visual aproach to runway 17, is more funny, reach DAGMA whit 16000ft, and then continue flying visual....If runway 35 is the active simple make the VOR ILS APP RWY 35 DESCENT 4 Bye! Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted August 5, 2007 at 06:06 AM Posted August 5, 2007 at 06:06 AM Aditional... UDILA S00 15 04 W078 21 02 VURIS S00 00 08 W078 17 08 PAGAM S00 00 02 W078 18 01 VAKEL N00 02 02 W078 19 06 DAGMA N00 11 03 W078 25 00 Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 5, 2007 at 09:44 AM Author Posted August 5, 2007 at 09:44 AM Hi Nicolas Thanks again for all that information. I will use it. Do you happen to know the co-ordinates also for the ones I mentioned previously? I would like to try and get them added to FSNavigator via Stephan if possible. Many thanks, see you soon in Ecuador Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted August 5, 2007 at 04:36 PM Posted August 5, 2007 at 04:36 PM Mmmmmm is difficult to get the co-ordinates for that.... give me some day and i will see what can I do. Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM Author Posted August 5, 2007 at 06:17 PM Hi Nicolas Thank you. I can confirm that all the intersections you mentioned are included in FSNavigator but not the ones I mentioned. If it is a lot of work for you then don't do it. I just wanted to get them included in the next issue of Airac if I could. Best regards Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 6, 2007 at 06:23 PM Author Posted August 6, 2007 at 06:23 PM Hi Nicolas I flew from SEQU to SEGU and also did the return flight this evening (UK time) but missed any controllers. Maybe I will get better luck next time eh!. However I had a nice "chat" with another pilot at SEQU. Ecuador is a lovely challenge. The charts were a blessing regarding the mountains, so thank you once more Regards Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Larroulet Posted August 7, 2007 at 03:03 AM Posted August 7, 2007 at 03:03 AM Howard, Since you are looking for charts for Chile too, I can direct you to Chile vACC's website at www.accvirtual.cl go to section "DESCARGAS" (downloads), and scroll down to sub-section "CARTAS" (charts). You'll find SID/STAR/IAC charts for all of the chilean airports, downloadable for free directly from the real-world chilean aviation authority (perfectly legal by the way, we just provide a link to their own public access web address). Sadly, they are only available in spanish, although they are not hard to understand as they use standard ICAO simbology. AFAIK, the english versions of this charts are only available commercially (jeppesen) so even if we had access to them, it would be unlawful to post them. Enroute charts (both high and low) are available for download in english (last link on sub-section CARTAS). They are somewhat outdated as they are the last cycle of the DAFIF charts, but are still helpful for flight simming. If you want the latest real world cycle, they are available for download in the same website as the SID/STAR/IAC charts, in spanish only. btw, sorry for not having (yet) an english version of the website available. We're working on it although our manpower has been diverted to other more urgent tasks in the recent times. Any help you need, however, just drop me an email and I'll be glad to help you out cheers! Javier Larroulet (C3) - Chile vACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 7, 2007 at 02:05 PM Author Posted August 7, 2007 at 02:05 PM Javier Thank you for ther links which are much appreciated. Standard ICAO simbology is OK. its long instructions on the charts in Spanish that get me a bit worried. Nicolas has previously provided me with a link to his site where I downloaded charts in English for SCEL & SCCI, so I will go to www.accvirtual.cl also and get some more. Its a great shame having joined Navigraph (payware) and downloaded monthly Airac's plus hundreds of charts that South America seems to be neglected, I see no charts on their site, yet it is amongst the most challenging & enjoyable parts of the world in which to fly. Please don't apologize for not having an English version. It is I that should apologize for not speaking Spanish. I feel sure more Europeans would fly if English charts were available. Please accept my thanks for your help and interest. I will fly over Chile in due course. Happy flying Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 7, 2007 at 03:01 PM Author Posted August 7, 2007 at 03:01 PM Javier I have had as look at the site and can download Sid's/Stars etc but cannot see LC (runways) and APSI(parking) charts. Have I missed something? The ones I would like are for SCFA and SCIE as I have SCEL & SCCI. egasrds Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Larroulet Posted August 8, 2007 at 04:44 AM Posted August 8, 2007 at 04:44 AM Howard, Landing Charts (more specifically Approach Plates) are referred by our aviation authority as Instrument Approach Charts (IAC). Those are available right where you found sid/star charts and are linked using the following naming convention: IACx type where "x" is the correlative number for each approach plate. Generally, numbers are [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igned first for ILS, then for VOR-DME, then VOR and then ADF (there are some exceptions to this convention, although most of the time you'll find ILS as the first approach plates for the ILS-equipped airports, then VORDME and so on) for example, ILS approach for runway 02 at SCIE is linked as "IAC1 ILS", and VOR-DME to runway 19 in SCFA will be linked, IIRC, as "IAC1 VOR-DME" Runways are depicted in separate charts for some airports in charts called "ADC". Not all airports have parking areas detailed in our AIP (like SCEL does). whenever they are available, these parking positions are available as PDC if memory serves correctly. Other interesting charts you might find on the AIP are: BCAC: Bird Concentration Area Charts. not really usable for simming, but they depict the areas where large concentrations of birds nest or loiter around airports, which are to be taken in consideration for real-life flying MRVAC: analogue to MVA's in other parts of the world, these are Minimum Radar Vectoring Altitude Charts. Some airports have these to ensure terrain separation due to specially complicated topography let me know if there's anything else you might need. I'll be more than happy to help cheers! Javier Larroulet (C3) - Chile vACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 8, 2007 at 02:02 PM Author Posted August 8, 2007 at 02:02 PM Hi Javier Thank you for the detailed explanation which is most helpful. I have looked again at SCFA & SCIE but cannot find a plan view showing runway/s layout for download even after your advice. I have them for SCEL & SCCI so feel they are somewhere as I have never known an airport not to have them. So where am I going wrong please? Cheers Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Nicolas Larenas 89785 Posted August 9, 2007 at 08:34 PM Posted August 9, 2007 at 08:34 PM Hi NicolasI flew from SEQU to SEGU and also did the return flight this evening (UK time) but missed any controllers. Maybe I will get better luck next time eh!. However I had a nice "chat" with another pilot at SEQU. Ecuador is a lovely challenge. The charts were a blessing regarding the mountains, so thank you once more Regards Howard Yes Howard I saw you flying between Quito Guayaquil Quito, but you flew to early, next time, try to fly at 0000Z and you sure will find controllers. Nicolás Larenas VATSIM Supervisor www.tamevirtual.org www.guayaquil-fir.org Quito - Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Brennan 980082 Posted August 10, 2007 at 01:48 PM Author Posted August 10, 2007 at 01:48 PM Hi Nicolas It is due to you and others who have given me such good guidance ref charts etc that I am flying at all over your lovely Country.Unfortunately I have to fly bertween 1700 & 1930 hours UK time ( you are 6 hours behind us) so I will have to manage. If I get the chance to fly later I will. Flew last evening and had Fernando Bueno on. Very nice chap, most helpful. Best regards Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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