Brian Ratledge 962606 Posted November 22, 2007 at 02:52 AM Posted November 22, 2007 at 02:52 AM http://www.x-plane.com/beta.html Enjoy! ZLA Director of Pilot Relations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Conrad 989233 Posted November 22, 2007 at 03:22 AM Posted November 22, 2007 at 03:22 AM Downloading the demo now. I'm going to order the DVDs when the x-plane.org store has them, so that x-plane.org gets a cut to help them keep running. ZLA Pilot Certs make your eyes bright, your teeth white, and childbirth a pleasure. Get yours today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Steele 953544 Posted November 22, 2007 at 02:06 PM Posted November 22, 2007 at 02:06 PM Pre-orders are available at the .ORG now - just ordered mine - will be shipping after November 30, 2007 FYI - I highly recommend anyone loading the demo to do a 'fresh' install - not an upgrade - if you have the space available. While the upgrade appears to leave your 8.64 (or current version) intact, the older scenery in the 820 Default Scenery folders cause X-Plane to crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Elchitz 810151 Posted November 22, 2007 at 07:24 PM Posted November 22, 2007 at 07:24 PM Order Complete. Ian Elchitz Just a guy without any fancy titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ratledge 962606 Posted November 23, 2007 at 08:10 PM Author Posted November 23, 2007 at 08:10 PM I got mine ordered today from .org. ZLA Director of Pilot Relations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 23, 2007 at 08:13 PM Posted November 23, 2007 at 08:13 PM Wow, that actually looks pretty good. Now they just need to get avionics on par with MSFS, and I'll switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 23, 2007 at 10:26 PM Posted November 23, 2007 at 10:26 PM Just tried the demo, and I gotta say, I'm not as impressed as I was hoping I'd be. It looks OK, but it's nothing spectacular. The controls welt WAY too responsive, not to mention the number of times the thing locked-up on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Elchitz 810151 Posted November 23, 2007 at 10:54 PM Posted November 23, 2007 at 10:54 PM The controls welt WAY too responsive The controls are extremely configurable. Correctly setting the Null Zone, Center, and linear responses of the controls can result in a perfect configuration. You also need to calibrate your joystick using the internal settings by going through each axis' full range of motion. In 8.6 this could be accomplished while the application is loading up. Going with the app out of the box always results in it being too responsive. not to mention the number of times the thing locked-up on me Not sure why this is happening. Probably has to do with a combination of your system specs and the XPlane rendering settings. I have not downloaded the new beta so I'm not sure what has changed. I recommend you spend some time checking out posts in both this forum - and searching the ZLA forums (http://www.laartcc.org/zla) for posts about configuring rendering settings. The ones posted by Keith Smith are extremely informative. Most people who open XP for the first time don't like it at all. It takes a little getting used to and some time to configure things just the way you like them. Once you reach that point - you may enjoy it much more. This is hard to do with a 10 minute demo however. Ian Elchitz Just a guy without any fancy titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Goldsworthy 925085 Posted November 24, 2007 at 04:36 AM Posted November 24, 2007 at 04:36 AM Order Complete. Shawn "SX" Goldsworthy Retired ATM/ Staff Instructor Los Angeles ARTCC N123SX | xxx554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Goldsworthy 925085 Posted November 24, 2007 at 04:38 AM Posted November 24, 2007 at 04:38 AM Wow, that actually looks pretty good. Now they just need to get avionics on par with MSFS, and I'll switch. The avionics in X-Plane are actually more like the real world ones. It just lacks the FMS type toys. Shawn "SX" Goldsworthy Retired ATM/ Staff Instructor Los Angeles ARTCC N123SX | xxx554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:59 AM Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:59 AM Wow, that actually looks pretty good. Now they just need to get avionics on par with MSFS, and I'll switch. The avionics in X-Plane are actually more like the real world ones. It just lacks the FMS type toys. How do you figure that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Goldsworthy 925085 Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:10 AM Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:10 AM Hop in a C172 in the real world. Track to a VOR and let me know what happens when you cross over the station. Now do the same thing in X-plane and tell me what it does. Now do it in MSFS and watch the autopilot chase the needle for 20 minutes. That will answer your question. Same thing when you get out of station range, the needle bounces all over the place just like it does in the real world. Shawn "SX" Goldsworthy Retired ATM/ Staff Instructor Los Angeles ARTCC N123SX | xxx554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 24, 2007 at 07:10 AM Posted November 24, 2007 at 07:10 AM I don't fly 172's (Actually I do, occasionally. I don't like them, though.), and nothing I fly has an autopilot that's anything more than eye candy, so I can't take you up on the first part. Anyway, I don't know what your flying, but that doesn't happen to me. (In flightsim, that is.) And thanks to RXP, all of my VOR's, ADF's, etc., act like I would expect their real world counterparts to. I wasn't talking about that anyway. By "get avionics on par with MSFS", I meant, "They need to get more stuff." Yeah, it functions fine, but there is so much more variety in MSFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Turnbull 992265 Posted November 24, 2007 at 12:24 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 12:24 PM I have been a x-plane fan for a long while now. X-Plane 9 Beta 2 is good with new water textures, global scenery 9, not much change with A/P tho...?! But as you know it A Beta more will follow later on during development. I have ordered my own copy should get to mine by December. I have tryed X-plane 9 on VATSIM and it connects pretty well and was able to commuicate to pilots and ATC. I find X-Plane a great SIM to learn how to fly. Im taking my first flying lesson next year and its a great tool. Lately a few more airlines are interested in X-Plane for training. The flight models are out of this world. And it FAA approved. I agree with the statement "The avionics in X-Plane are actually more like the real world ones" My flight instructor agrees to. From Scott Johnston post "They need to get more stuff." Yeah, it functions fine, but there is so much more variety in MSFS." Answer: MSFS has lot to offer for the game but.... there is alot for x-plane too. Im joined with www.X-Plane.org and www.xplanefreeware.net. There have been new scenery and Aircraft developments. There are 1000s. Feel free to check the sites out. Kind Regards System: X-Plane 8.64 with Global Scenery 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wilber 831268 Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:36 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:36 PM I wasn't talking about that anyway. By "get avionics on par with MSFS", I meant, "They need to get more stuff." Yeah, it functions fine, but there is so much more variety in MSFS. What good are all the nice toys in MSFS if they don't work acurately, or the whole sim crashes to the desktop three times on a two-hour flight? Please don't tell me I don't know how to set up FS to work right, I have a good deal of experience with computers and software. I know how to set it up; it's just that FS will only work with Windoze (of course,) and Windoze is the most unstable OS known to man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:45 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:45 PM Brian, you can't have everything, now can ya? You just have to make due with what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:46 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 05:46 PM That's the thing, they do work accurately. Trust me, I'm a stickler for realism, I wouldn't use the stuff that I use if it wasn't relatively realistic. I haven't had FS crash on me in months. (Knock on wood.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Turnbull 992265 Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:35 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:35 PM (edited) LOL "That's the thing, they do work accurately. Trust me, I'm a stickler for realism, I wouldn't use the stuff that I use if it wasn't relatively realistic." My flight instrutor advise me to use X-Plane as i said in my other post. X-Plane has a realistic flight model. Being a Simulator! it simulates the behavoiur of Aircaft as it would in the real world. The FAA approval to train pilots towards their COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATE, INSTRUMENT RATING, and AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT CERTIFICATE. This training is done in a full-motion simulator, using X-Plane as the simulator software! The Link: http://x-plane.com/FTD.html But if you like MSFS that all well and good. My mates have FSX and Love it. I like x-plane. Kind Regards Edited November 24, 2007 at 06:53 PM by Guest System: X-Plane 8.64 with Global Scenery 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Johnston 890281 Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:42 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 06:42 PM I'm pretty happy with MSFS, but thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Goldsworthy 925085 Posted November 24, 2007 at 10:02 PM Posted November 24, 2007 at 10:02 PM Yeah, it functions fine, but there is so much more variety in MSFS. Agreed 100% I was more talking about how smooth the actual instrument needles move, etc. Shawn "SX" Goldsworthy Retired ATM/ Staff Instructor Los Angeles ARTCC N123SX | xxx554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Elchitz 810151 Posted November 25, 2007 at 12:04 AM Posted November 25, 2007 at 12:04 AM I loved MSFS for years. I love x-plane now. Both simulators have their strong and weak points- let's not turn this into an Airbus vs. Boeing thread. You can take away my X-Plane when you rip it out of cold dead hands - however I'd trade my soul for my PMDG737 or LevelD767 to work in X-Plane. Ian Elchitz Just a guy without any fancy titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Laws 1023369 Posted November 25, 2007 at 01:04 PM Posted November 25, 2007 at 01:04 PM LOL! That's how I feel about x-plane. Though I do have a question. Why did it skip 8.7-8.99?!?!?!?!? It seems weird. Without dreams, life ceases to entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Conrad 989233 Posted November 26, 2007 at 01:31 AM Posted November 26, 2007 at 01:31 AM There's no meaning to jumping "straight" from 8.64 to 9. Some companies prefer to put their beta code in the current series of numbering, some in the next. It's just numbering and doesn't mean anything. ZLA Pilot Certs make your eyes bright, your teeth white, and childbirth a pleasure. Get yours today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted November 26, 2007 at 01:35 AM Posted November 26, 2007 at 01:35 AM Normally a Jump from 8x to 9x means a Major update. Typically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wilber 831268 Posted November 28, 2007 at 03:04 AM Posted November 28, 2007 at 03:04 AM Brian, you can't have everything, now can ya? You just have to make due with what you have. Sure I can. But some of what I have, I found after I got it, I didn't really want it. MSFS is not quite in that category, but close. Just kidding. FS is OK, but I do have issues with it locking up sometimes, usually on final after a very long flight. I have never had a crash of any kind with X-Plane running on Linux. I had a problem once with the Windoze based version, but I only had about five programs running besides X-Plane so I attribute it to that. That's the beauty of Linux, I have had as many as thirteen programs open at once on it with zero stability issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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