Richard Ruminski Posted March 31, 2008 at 01:56 AM Posted March 31, 2008 at 01:56 AM (edited) VATUSA Events Schedule for 3/31-4/6 Friday, April 4, 2008 Friday Night Ops at ZTL from 2300Z-0300 Saturday April 5, 2008 ZMA Spring Break Featuring Palm Beach Int. KPBI. 2300Z to 0200 Z Edited April 1, 2008 at 02:25 PM by Guest Ric Ruminski I1 VATUSA11 Communications Manager VATUSA email: VATUSA11 (at) vatusa.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bromback Posted April 1, 2008 at 12:23 AM Posted April 1, 2008 at 12:23 AM Some important links for pilots to check our before flying into or out of ATL for FNO... Flying with ZTL PDF file read this!!! ATL ramp procedures ***VERY IMPORTANT*** By reading both of these links you will expedite traffic flow and make it a much more enjoyable event for everyone. Also Satellite airports such as KPDK, KAHN, KMCN, etc...will have full ATC services even if you don't see MCN_APP online. The reason for this is the airports are under jurisdiction the A80 which is ATL_APP control. See you there!! Matt Bromback Air Traffic Manager N[Mod - Happy Thoughts]au FIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Dambrosio 1002873 Posted April 1, 2008 at 01:05 AM Posted April 1, 2008 at 01:05 AM it is going to be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Henderson 976708 Posted April 1, 2008 at 02:48 PM Posted April 1, 2008 at 02:48 PM I am confused by the control of KAHN and KMCN by ATL_APP. KPDK makes perfect sense as it is in the tracon. I would have thought that a center controller would be providing service to KMCN if MCN_APP isn't on not ATL_APP. Plus it seems an approach controller would have to have a pretty big range setting to cover them both. Just trying to understand it all. Kevin Henderson Anchorage Air Traffic Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Wilmes Posted April 1, 2008 at 04:56 PM Posted April 1, 2008 at 04:56 PM A80 (Atlanta Approach) does not cover just KATL, KPDK and the surrounding airports. A80 also provides the services for the Macon (MCN), Columbus (CSG), and Athens (AHN) areas. Basically think of it as 4 TRACONs in 1. There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Benton Wilmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Caban 844086 Posted April 1, 2008 at 10:02 PM Posted April 1, 2008 at 10:02 PM "Macon Approach," "Columbus Approach," and "Athens Approach" don't exist. Athens never has, and Columbus and Macon were consolidated into A80 almost ten years ago. Regards, JX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Henderson 976708 Posted April 2, 2008 at 12:51 AM Posted April 2, 2008 at 12:51 AM Well Gentlemen thanks for the good responses. That certainly does make a lot of sense. I'm sure I simply missed all of this in the new procedures and sectorization. Just another simple question to understand how it does work in the real world. Are these areas covered by the same controller even under the callsign of ATL_APP or is there a seperate controller for those areas that simply is working out of the A80? Way to make it as real as it gets regardless. Kevin Henderson Anchorage Air Traffic Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Caban 844086 Posted April 2, 2008 at 09:14 AM Posted April 2, 2008 at 09:14 AM in the real world, there are 21 dedicated radar positions out of 28 scopes at the A80. The remaining seven scopes are used for 4 Sups and 3 TMU! that's: 1. North Departure 2. South Departure 3. 'Trip' Departure 4. North West (DALLAS) Feeder 5. North East (LOGEN) Feeder 6. South East (Husky) Feeder 7. South West (Y) Feeder 8. North Final 9. South Final 10. 'Trip' Final 11. North West (Fulton) Satellite 12. North East (Peachtree) Satellite 13. South West Satellite (X) 14. South East Satellite (G) 15. Macon High ® 16. Macon Low (L) 17. Columbus East (E) 18. Columbus West (W) 19. Peachtree Final (Q) 20. Links Hi (Athens) 21. Links Low (Athens) During the mid-night shift I believe they combine it down to three or four radar positions. 1. Atlanta Departure/Satellite Combined 2. Atlanta Approach/Feeder Combined 3. Macon/Columbus/Links Combined As far as we go here on VATSIM, we only have eight A80 positions. Here's a map if your curious: http://www.vztlartcc.org/sitefiles/A80_combined.jpg The circle is the Original Atlanta Approach and the East, Southeast, and Southwest areas are Links, Macon, and Columbus respectively. Hope this helps. Regards, JX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Henderson 976708 Posted April 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM Posted April 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM Joe, Thanks for the great response. I follow you completely now and that diagram did help it make sense. I'll have to try and fly into somewhere like KAHN. Pilots come challenge these guys as vZTL will be ready! Looking forward to it. Kevin Henderson Anchorage Air Traffic Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bromback Posted April 4, 2008 at 12:46 PM Posted April 4, 2008 at 12:46 PM Ooooo boy look at the weather forecasted for tonight in Atlanta!!! KATL 041231Z 11007KT 1/4SM R09R/1800V3000FT -DZ FG VV001 09/08 A3004 RMK AO2 P0000 KATL 041122Z 041212 10006KT 1/2SM -DZ FG OVC001 FM1300 11007KT 2SM BR OVC003 FM1500 14009KT 5SM BR OVC007 FM1600 17010KT P6SM VCSH OVC012 FM1800 20012KT P6SM VCSH BKN025 TEMPO 1820 4SM -SHRA BKN015 FM2000 21013KT P6SM -RA SCT025 BKN050 TEMPO 2024 3SM -TSRA BR BKN020CB FM0000 23010KT 6SM -RA BR BKN040 TEMPO 0004 28020G35KT 1SM +TSRA BKN012CB FM0400 24008KT 6SM -RA BR BKN025 PROB30 0409 5SM -TSRA BKN012CB FM0900 26006KT 4SM BR VCSH BKN007 So if you like flying your p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]engers through T-storms ATLANTA is the place to be tonight!! See you there! Matt Bromback Air Traffic Manager N[Mod - Happy Thoughts]au FIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Caban 844086 Posted April 4, 2008 at 02:06 PM Posted April 4, 2008 at 02:06 PM Matt you beat me to it you mind reader! I was just about to say east-ops in IFR!!!!! no visual sep for us!!! =) This'll be fun! Regards, JX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Williams 877539 Posted April 4, 2008 at 03:19 PM Posted April 4, 2008 at 03:19 PM Nice! Could actually be holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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