Harold Rutila 974112 Posted June 11, 2008 at 06:07 PM Posted June 11, 2008 at 06:07 PM Calling all western region controllers and pilots! The POWDR7 arrival is now current into the Denver Tracon. The STAR's Red Table transition contains a new fix, JNETT that is crossed before the BASEE fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Williams 849847 Posted June 11, 2008 at 08:37 PM Posted June 11, 2008 at 08:37 PM Actually there were a lot of SID/STAR changes all over the country with the latest AIRAC that came out a few weeks ago. I would recommend that anyone who hasn't done an AIRAC or chart update recently take the time to do one. A slew of RNAV departure procedures were added in CVG, a new SID and several changes to the existing SIDS were made in the Houston airspace, several of the ATL arrival crossing restrictions were changed, ORD, MDW, PIT, and TPA's SIDS were all revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Mathieu 998318 Posted June 11, 2008 at 09:24 PM Posted June 11, 2008 at 09:24 PM I am aware of the POWDR7 and flew it last Friday. Is there a web page we can go to that has all the AIRAC updates on one website? Thanks Best Regards, Thomas Mathieu VATAME1 Region Director VATSIM Africa Middle East http://www.vatame.net [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted June 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM Posted June 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM On top of that, you may want to have the ATM or dATM of ZDV get hold of the ATMs of adjacent sectors, and work on getting LOAs updated to reflect POWDR7. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted June 11, 2008 at 10:30 PM Author Posted June 11, 2008 at 10:30 PM I don't think we need to, really. The LOAs with ARTCCs that have planes with the POWDR7 arrival say "and the POWDR STAR," not specifically the POWDR6 arrival. As of our last meeting, however, the LOAs are going to be updated shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingo Harders Posted June 12, 2008 at 04:46 AM Posted June 12, 2008 at 04:46 AM Harold, Thank you for the heads-up. Much appreciated. I was surprised by the changes last week when I filed the Kepec 1 and was told it's now Kepec 2! (that had me stumped for a moment as I did not know if I was even dressed correctly for a Kepec "2")... Anyhow it brings up some questions: a) how often do these things change? (and I don't mean a new monthly release that is identical to the previous chart) b) why is there no service that one can subscribe to and have the updates sent automatically as they happen? Kinda like: please send me updates for KDEN, KSFO, KPSP etc Also please be advised that when I put the comment "charts" into my flightplan it does not mean the most recent charts Regards N405HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted June 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM Author Posted June 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM Hi Ingo, Denver has had the POWDR6 for I think about 11 months now. It could be longer, but I don't remember. The charts update according to the AIRAC cycle, but sometimes they don't change. The FAA releases new charts, regardless of whether or not they have been updated or fixed, on a given date. On MyAirplane.com (government) charts, the date at which they are enacted and expire are listed on the left margin of the chart. I'm almost certain that there is a service that you can subscribe to, but it's through Jeppessen and might be a little too expensive. MyAirplane.com's NACO Approach Plate webpage lists the current AIRAC cycle in bold, white letters above the airport identifier entry. http://www.myairplane.com/databases/approach/index.php?mode=d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingo Harders Posted June 13, 2008 at 03:13 AM Posted June 13, 2008 at 03:13 AM Hello Harold, Thank you for your reply. I use the same source as you for my charts. I have charts from about 5 dozen airports. And yes they do state on each chart the dates from when to when they are valid. The loop4 that I have for example is valid until jul 3, 2008. Trust me I do not have a reminder in my calender to dwnld the new chart on jul 4. This version looks to me exactly like the one prior to this one and to that one and so on. When I decide to fly I check where there is ATC available, then load my saved flightplans, saved charts etc for the specific flite. If they are out of date.. dang... I will have current one's the next time I fly.. But like I said, it would be nice to have a service to alert us (me), that the "loop4" has changed from the previous version and I could then dwnld the changed files only. Regards N405HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted June 13, 2008 at 08:13 PM Author Posted June 13, 2008 at 08:13 PM Yes I agree on that. I wonder if there is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted June 13, 2008 at 09:06 PM Posted June 13, 2008 at 09:06 PM I know there is a list that comes out with each AIRAC cycle that shows what is going to change, but I am not sure where it is located at, or if someone has to have a subscription to the charts in order to get them. Strike that. Here's a way to get it. http://naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp select the AIRAC cycle in question. Then set your critera for what you're looking for (by state, by ICAO or FAA code, by volume, etc). Then filter by "Changed Since Last Cycle". What I don't know is if NACO puts up the charts going into the next cycle before that cycle starts. If so, that would be exactly what you're looking for. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baker 1004102 Posted June 13, 2008 at 09:13 PM Posted June 13, 2008 at 09:13 PM Nice on Brad! To bad you can't filter by ZAU, ZLA etc. ZMP_BD MITRE OP1 survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Grey 951315 Posted June 14, 2008 at 12:07 AM Posted June 14, 2008 at 12:07 AM What I don't know is if NACO puts up the charts going into the next cycle before that cycle starts. If so, that would be exactly what you're looking for. Yes they do within a couple weeks. ZLA_PG - Instructor - ZLA N31ER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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