How to change active sector?

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Hello,

 

As I am developing some sectors for different region in the country, sometime I load 2 or 3 differents ASR files for differents airports, i.e., SBCT, SBYS and SBNT.

 

When I open the second ASR and do not set the new sector file as active, ES keeps the center of visibility in the first one, what is correct. Pressing F7 I switch the display to the new sector, but do not set it as active, as a consequence I cannot change the visibility center (.rcenter), it is not possible to change active runways (it displays the first ASR settings), and so on. Even when I close the active sector the second one is not set as the active sector.

 

How can I change the active sector when I have more than one loaded in ES?

 

The only I found until now is to close all ASR files (or ES) and reaload the one I want to use.

 

Regards,

 

Wills

[Todor Atanasov 878664]

Wills, the rules for activating sector are:

1. Correct Callsign

2. Correct Primary Freq for the Callsign

 

1 and 2 must be defined in the ESE. Now...as you can see, at the moment you can have only one primary frequency and only one active callsign connected to the network. ASR are not sectors, the are simply bookmarks with display and other settings.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Thanks!

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Wills, the rules for activating sector are:

1. Correct Callsign

2. Correct Primary Freq for the Callsign

 

1 and 2 must be defined in the ESE. Now...as you can see, at the moment you can have only one primary frequency and only one active callsign connected to the network. ASR are not sectors, the are simply bookmarks with display and other settings.

 

Hi Todor,

 

I followed your instructions but it doesn't work until I close the .ASR I want to use and reopen .ASR.

 

In short:

 

1. I reviewed ESE file to be sure that in [POSITION] I have the correct callsign (SBCG_APP)

 

Campo Grande Approach:-:120.200:CG:G:SBCG:APP:SBCG:AP-CG:3501:3540

 

2. Two ASR open (SBYS and SBCG).

 

3. Active sector SBYS, visibility center at SBYS (.rcenter)

 

4. Use F7 to change to SBCG sector

 

5. Logged as SBCG_APP (freq set automatically and correctly 120.2)

 

6. check visibility center (.showvis) - Center still in SBYS

 

7. executed command .rcenter sbcg - center stil in SBYS

 

8. Checked active runways - showed only SBYS runways

 

9. Closed SBCG ASR and Sector

 

10. Open SBCG.ASR => now vis center and runways was correct.

 

So my question remains... how to change active sector? F7 should do that?

 

Regads,

 

Wills

[Todor Atanasov 878664]

OK, I think you didn't understand me correct.

First, F7 is only switching ASR displaying on the screen. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ACTIVE SECTOR. To change a sector you have to do:

1.disconnect being SBYS

2.reconnect with SBCG_APP and freq 120.200

 

Second, the initial visual center is set by the sct coordinates in the firsts lines. Altho you should be able to set it with .rcenter. I just test it and it is working, try setting some FIX or VOR near SBCG(check your sct file to see if the airport is there).

 

Third the active RWY is set on session only, switching ASR by F7 won't do it.

 

If I understand correct, you want to change active sectors fast? Correct?

 

Send me the files to removed for security reasons to check it.

Edited June 14, 2008 at 04:51 PM by Guest

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Thanks Todor.

 

I will be sending them right away.

 

Regards,

 

Wills

[Gergely Csernak]

Wills,

 

Keep in mind that even you are able to load ASR files that are related to different SCT/ESE pairs there is only ONE ACTIVE SCT/ESE pair. And many functions are working on the active sectorfile not on the displayed one.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Gergely,

 

OK! What I was not able to do is when switching one position to another and change the active sector to the correct one.

 

For instance, suppose I have loaded SBYS.ASR (active) and SBCG.ASR (F7 works to switch between sectors views), and I am at SBYS as approach controler (SBYS_APP). Then I decided to change to SBCG_APP which ASR and sector are already loaded. In such situation how can I change the active sector and settings from SBYS to SBCG?

 

The only way, until now, I found to do that is to close SBCG files and open SBCG.ASR ou .SCT again. This way I can also be offline to change.

 

Regards,

 

Wills

Edited June 14, 2008 at 06:05 PM by Guest

[Stephan Boerner 945550]

Close the one you don't need any more.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Stephan,

 

I tried that too and it doesn't work too. To make my test I did:

 

1. Open SBYS and SBCG ASR files and sectors and defined SBYS as active

 

2. Logged in as SBCG_APP and closed SBYS sector

 

The result was that I could only see SBYS rwys and not SBCG rwys and vis centes was kept in SBYS.

 

Regads,

 

Wills

[Stephan Boerner 945550]

try to close SBYS before you open SBCG.

[Todor Atanasov 878664]

Wills, as Gergely said, you can have only one active sector file. ".showvis" and ".rcenter" are working only on the active sector.

But there is a way...you simply open new ES instance, close any ASE on the second, load your second sct file and make it active, in this case you have two active sectors. But I think that is a bug. Also in the second instance all traffic inside the visual range disappears(I guess because the real range is thousand of mils away, the test was made with one yours and one mine sectors) I think I found a bug.

 

So to sum-up: You can use the functions above in two different sectors...but you shouldn't be able to. So here is the question I wanted to ask you at the beginning: Why don't join the two sectors in one, it this case you can ".rcenter" where ever you want.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

Hi,

 

The reason of my question is due to the ES to allowed only one active sector, that's why I wonder how to change active sector.

 

If Brazil were a small country for sure I would make just one big sector. The problem to create one big sector is the distance between airports and, as a result, the large magnetic variation that will make vectoring incorrect. Just for an instance from SBYS to SBNT it is about 1186 NM, from SBCG to SBNT it is 1411 NM and from SBPK to SBYA is 2165 NM.

 

The best solution I have found, that preserve every settings, is to use different profiles, but in such case I have to close ES before open a new instance because if I do that I have no voice available on the second one. Is there any option to open a profile without closing ES?

 

Regards,

 

Wills

[Todor Atanasov 878664]

As far as I know....NO.

[Stephan Boerner 945550]

The best solution I have found, that preserve every settings, is to use different profiles, but in such case I have to close ES before open a new instance because if I do that I have no voice available on the second one.

What are the settings you want to preserve? As there are very few settings saved in the profile, I don't think those are station-specific settings.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

As far as I know....NO.

 

Thanks for the answer.

[Wills Damasio 810202]

The best solution I have found, that preserve every settings, is to use different profiles, but in such case I have to close ES before open a new instance because if I do that I have no voice available on the second one.

What are the settings you want to preserve? As there are very few settings saved in the profile, I don't think those are station-specific settings.

 

Sthephan,

 

Things like colors, lables and other stuffs. When you load a profile, as far as I know, ES can load specific settings files, aliases and other files. This way you can have different different setup for different profiles or sectors.

 

Wills

[Stephan Boerner 945550]

You can load those settings file by "Load all settings". Display settings are saved in the ASR file. You don't need special profiles for those.