John Owen 1070686 Posted August 6, 2008 at 02:44 PM Posted August 6, 2008 at 02:44 PM I want to ask if I use VFR , can I use Autopilot and ILS landing?? Also,if I use VFR,I want to land at VHHH,who should I connect to??Tower or Approach? And What should I say to ATC if I want to land???Thank you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Conrad 989233 Posted August 6, 2008 at 04:10 PM Posted August 6, 2008 at 04:10 PM If you are VFR, you can still use the ILS by calling the approach controller and requesting a "VFR practice approach." ATC will give you vectors for the approach as though you were real IFR traffic, but will add additional words such as, "maintain VFR, no separation services provided," to remind you that it is your responsibility to continue to look outside the window and not hit anything." This phraseology is specific to the US. I don't know what it is in Europe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When VFR and approaching an airport to land, your first call to ATC should be when you are outside the airspace of the airport you want to land at. In the US, you will include the name of the tower you are calling, your callsign, possibly your aircraft type, position and altitude and the ATIS code if you have it. For example: "Deer Valley Tower, Cessna 123 type Skyhawk, eight Northwest, three thousand five hundred with bravo." For common aircraft types, you may abbreviate the callsign by using the aircraft type rather than manufacturer in the callsign: "Deer Valley Tower, Skyhawk 123, eight Northwest..." There is no need to tell the tower you want to land. It's [Mod - Happy Thoughts]umed. If you're calling because you want something other than to land, then add that: "... with bravo, transition to the South." '... with bravo, closed traffic." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When on an instrument approach and approaching an airport to land, it's a little different. You reference your position by fixes on the approach. Usually, approach will switch you over to tower near the outer marker or final approach fix. Wherever approach switches you over, look at your approach plate, and use it to find the nearest fix on the plate. Use that to tell tower where you are. You are going to call the tower with: The name of the tower, your callsign, the fix, and which ATIS you have. "Los Angeles International tower, Bug Smasher 123, JETSA inbound with echo" "Santa Monica tower, Seneca 987, BEVEY inbound with sierra" Tower should know all of the fixes on his approaches. Telling tower you're "FOO inbound" gives him loads of infomation all at once. He now knows where you are, that you're on an instrument approach, and probably which one (although some non-precision approaches share fixes). Provided he's studied up on his airspace, as he should have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: Proper Radio Phraseology and Technique by Austin Collins Airman's Information Manual ZLA Pilot Certs make your eyes bright, your teeth white, and childbirth a pleasure. Get yours today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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