Christopher Barker 1044084 Posted September 1, 2008 at 06:00 PM Posted September 1, 2008 at 06:00 PM Hello, I have been doing this for about a year now. I am a member of CIX VFR and they provide excellent training in UK VFR procedures. These guys are great! They have a ton of materials and you can talk to an instructor on teamspeak. What they don't do however is provide USA training or anything IFR. I'm wondering if there is a group like CIX, but American, that can school me in the way the US does things, and IFR procedures. I'm from the USA, and would love to learn the ropes here, and maybe make it to controlling here? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Perry Posted September 1, 2008 at 08:29 PM Posted September 1, 2008 at 08:29 PM ZLA Pilot Center? http://pilotcerts.laartcc.org/page/Home Haven't used it but it sounds like what you need. Good luck! Steven Perry VATSIM Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Davies Posted September 1, 2008 at 09:57 PM Posted September 1, 2008 at 09:57 PM Heres a link to help you learn the Airfield Pattern (Also known as VFR traffic pattern): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfield_traffic_pattern Not sure if they are the same here as in the UK, but I hope it helps. ControllerVirtual Houston ARTCCVATUSA - VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Parry Posted September 5, 2008 at 05:43 AM Posted September 5, 2008 at 05:43 AM I think there should be an academy, like they had for ATC but for pilots (some need it VERY bad just my two cents. I am not a fan of the ZLA pilot cert things, its all in ZLA, what good will that do me in Texas orhow about New York? Ryan Parry - 965346 www.pilotcentral.org | www.oakartcc.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Goldsworthy 925085 Posted September 5, 2008 at 06:04 AM Posted September 5, 2008 at 06:04 AM I think there should be an academy, like they had for ATC but for pilots (some need it VERY bad just my two cents. I am not a fan of the ZLA pilot cert things, its all in ZLA, what good will that do me in Texas orhow about New York? The ZLA pilot certs are not there to teach you to how to fly in ZLA. They teach you the VFR basics from the pattern to transitioning cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B airspace. It teaches the IFR basics, from how to read a chart, to flying a STAR, how to fly a hold, an approach, a procedure turn, etc. It doesn't mater if you are in TX, NY, wherever, the rules are the same. Shawn "SX" Goldsworthy Retired ATM/ Staff Instructor Los Angeles ARTCC N123SX | xxx554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffen Franz 1063884 Posted September 5, 2008 at 07:06 AM Posted September 5, 2008 at 07:06 AM check out the ZOA website (www.oakartcc.com) in the next couple of days. There will be a weekly new pilot event @ KSMF (9/14 and beyond) where controllers will take time aside to explain you procedures, phraeseology, IFR, VFR, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Wollenberg 810243 Posted September 5, 2008 at 08:41 AM Posted September 5, 2008 at 08:41 AM I think there should be an academy, like they had for ATC but for pilots (some need it VERY bad just my two cents. I am not a fan of the ZLA pilot cert things, its all in ZLA, what good will that do me in Texas orhow about New York? The ZLA pilot certs are not there to teach you to how to fly in ZLA. They teach you the VFR basics from the pattern to transitioning cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B airspace. It teaches the IFR basics, from how to read a chart, to flying a STAR, how to fly a hold, an approach, a procedure turn, etc. It doesn't mater if you are in TX, NY, wherever, the rules are the same. It's almost like a pilot license in the real world. While you might learn in only one small geographic location, the procedures and methods you learn can be applied everywhere. Bryan Wollenberg ZLA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Martin Posted September 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM Posted September 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM check out the ZOA website (www.oakartcc.com) in the next couple of days. There will be a weekly new pilot event @ KSMF (9/14 and beyond) where controllers will take time aside to explain you procedures, phraeseology, IFR, VFR, etc. etc. I wonder how long that's going to last Actually, that's a great idea, but trust me you'll probably want to smash your head against a wall with all new pilots ... see, explaining to 2,3,4 new pilots is one thing, but 20 at a time?! I hope ZOA carries this one out... it should work pretty good [Mod - Happy Thoughts]uming everyone keeps their hair in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris 920567 Posted September 5, 2008 at 12:34 PM Posted September 5, 2008 at 12:34 PM As I recall Justin, Don Fiveash did it for years - and very very successfully. http://www.execjetva.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted September 5, 2008 at 01:32 PM Posted September 5, 2008 at 01:32 PM I am not a fan of the ZLA pilot cert things, its all in ZLA, what good will that do me in Texas orhow about New York? Ryan, have you actually _looked_ at the ratings to see what material they cover? Other than one rating (V-3) which covers published Bravo transitions of LAX, the knowledge you acquire is applicable everywhere in the United States. It was done that way by design, precisely so that it WOULD be useful to any pilot flying in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris 920567 Posted September 5, 2008 at 02:26 PM Posted September 5, 2008 at 02:26 PM And I'd hazard, Keith, that with knowledge of how to fly those Bravo transitions you could likely follow just about any airspace transition throughout most of the US as well. http://www.execjetva.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Parry Posted September 5, 2008 at 07:58 PM Posted September 5, 2008 at 07:58 PM hmm ok never mind. I may do the cert thing myself, just for something new. Ryan Parry - 965346 www.pilotcentral.org | www.oakartcc.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffen Franz 1063884 Posted September 12, 2008 at 05:07 PM Posted September 12, 2008 at 05:07 PM check out www.oakartcc.com, it might just be what you are looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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