John Smits 1105606 Posted May 1, 2009 at 03:54 AM Posted May 1, 2009 at 03:54 AM Right!.....hello there Simmers. I will first introduce myself. I'm John, turning 49 in 12 days. I'm born in Antwerp, Belgium and still live here, and have reinstalled myself with new hard- and software after a dark-grey, inactive period of a lot of years. (I'm talking MSFS2002 was brand new then) Now I'm a bit in trouble here. I think I'm really making a mess of it all. I must have thought "Well, let me buy a PC, the new MSFSX and some Saitek gear and off we go just like in the old days." What really happened was....I totally scr***** it all up....and I'm not even flying online. So, here's my question to one of you who would be willing (maybe "courageous" is a better word) to help me in my struggle. Let me point out that I work with Vista Home Premium 64bit and MSFSX. I'd certainly appreciate this. Nevertheless, it feels good to be back and hope to be in the virtual skies up there quite soon. Many regards and careful up there, John. (1105606) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry James 901346 Posted May 1, 2009 at 08:35 AM Posted May 1, 2009 at 08:35 AM You shouldn't have any problems. Just pick either FSInn or SB4 and follow the installation steps and use your previous learning curb for VATSIM's procedures and you should be off and running. If you get stuck somewhere with the software, just post the step you get stuck at in the appropriate help forum for the pilot client you choose. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smits 1105606 Posted May 3, 2009 at 03:36 PM Author Posted May 3, 2009 at 03:36 PM Hi Larry, Thanks for the fast answer and sorry for the belated reply....duty called. I'm sure you're 100% correct, but the problems start even at the very beginning. I'm not yet even talking about internet or online flight. I presume that'll work quite smoothly. The thing is, the PC is quite capable of running this kinda software and more, but after installing MSFSX (which worked OK) I tried to install my favourite B733-PIC and the controllers. The controllers (Saitek X52Pro Stick, throttle and rudder pedals) don't work as they should. The MFD on the throttle isn't backlit and the mouse-knob is dead. The Saitek CD's don't work on Vista, so I downloaded the appropriate 64-bit ones from the Saitek site, installed them and at the end of installation the program goes dead with the announcement "please insert the controllers and hit continue"......while the controllers were already there. I then disconnected them, installed the drivers and at the popping-up of the plug-in request, did so. Result....dito. The 737 looks great, all panels show, but none of the switches or knobs give any sign of life when clicked. The mouse-pointer changes to a hand (with a + or - if necessary), but when I left-click, right click or put my large right foot on the mouse, the switches won't even wink! I'm very certain this house isn't haunted. Now try to explain these phenomena, or better to solve them, without acquiring a gigantic headache. Thanks for the response and hope to hear from you again, Many regards, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycliffe Barrett Posted May 6, 2009 at 01:15 PM Posted May 6, 2009 at 01:15 PM John I wonder do you have the correct version of the 737 PIC for FSX. Or are you trying to install incorrect software. It is more than likely a bad installation. Can I suggest you go to the WILCO site and have a read there. A thought occurs to me, are you using a directx 10 enabled graphics card and have directx10 enabled in the FSX. If so this does cause some problems with some Wilco products. Things have moved on quite substansially since the halcyon days of FS2002. If you could let us know what spec your machine is we should be able to help. Wycliffe PS regarding the siatek controllers they can be a bit of a pig to setup but first things first, uninstall all saitek controlling software and then uninstall the hard ware. The start again by installimng the software first, and when prompted plug in the hardware. All this USB plug and play nonsense can be a beast to setup hahahaha Wycliffe Barrett: C3 Controller "if god meant for us to fly, he would have given us tickets" Mel Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smits 1105606 Posted May 11, 2009 at 11:20 PM Author Posted May 11, 2009 at 11:20 PM Hello Wycliffe, (blushing for keeping you waiting) BUT....good news indeed. Firstly, the Saitek X52 is a Saitek X52 and not a "PRO", therefore other drivers needed to be installed. This works! Secondly, the Wilco 737PIC is OK for Vista and MSFSX...BUT.... I needed an update for MSFSX to SP1. Now this also works! Still one thing to do; the area in which the rudder-tips do not activate should be a bit greater. Momentarilly I only have to "point" at the rudder-tips and the plane starts braking! Talk about sensitive.... And one more thing I'd like to know. Can someone give me an accurate checklist of all the switches (and in what order) to shut down this 737 to a "full stop - cold and dark". Many thanks again Wycliffe and hope to see you in the air soon, Regards, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom van der elst Posted May 12, 2009 at 02:25 AM Posted May 12, 2009 at 02:25 AM And one more thing I'd like to know. Can someone give me an accurate checklist of all the switches (and in what order) to shut down this 737 to a "full stop - cold and dark". In fs2004 there is a tuning utility that also allows to start the plane cold and dark. I do not know if this is present for the FSX version, but it might be worth the check. it should be there under the Wilco Publishing ->737 PIC->737-300 setuputility. the -400 and -500 have similar utilities. cheers Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycliffe Barrett Posted May 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM Posted May 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM Hello John There is now a SP2 pack for MSFX whihc I reccomend you download from the FSX website. Wycliffe Wycliffe Barrett: C3 Controller "if god meant for us to fly, he would have given us tickets" Mel Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smits 1105606 Posted May 12, 2009 at 09:42 PM Author Posted May 12, 2009 at 09:42 PM Hehe, thanks guys. The 737-300 "cold and dark" setup was found immediately and installed as such. Works fine. The service pack 2 was installed (I have the deluxe edition with acceleration) but it seems I needed the SP1. Nevertheless, leaves me with one more riddle to solve (or rather have done that by you)...The CDU shows a message "Database out of date" or something quite like it. In any case...there's data I can't input in the CDU (eg the possibility to enter the gate number below the ref airport does not show). Anyway, thanks a million to the contributors and to all willing to help me out here. Many regards, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom van der elst Posted May 13, 2009 at 03:43 AM Posted May 13, 2009 at 03:43 AM the PIC 737 ships with an out of date airac. (as do most payware planes these days) If you want to upgrade the airac you'll have to pay and register at http://www.navigraph.com It's not that expensive,and it doés get you updated sids and stars as well. And ofcourse,if you upgrade to 0905 you don't get the nav database is out of date error. It is however perfectly possible to fly the PIC 737 with the out of date navdata, as long as you remember it may not accept all the routes you obtain via sites like vatroute.com or euroute.com. Also,it'll mean you have to fly the sids and stars yourself at some airports as they are not up to date anymore. As for the gates,I believe that doesn't work on the 737 PIC. or it might work on some airports and not at others. Try and see. cheers Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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