Dan Giordano Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM Author Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM Nope, go with the AMD, but get a black edition in case you want to overclock. do you mean go with Intel? or is the AMD phenom ii x4 or 6 just as good as the intel i5 2400-2500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Giordano Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:25 AM Author Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:25 AM ahh nevermind that last post, saw that u edited and made it clear lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Giordano Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:46 AM Author Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:46 AM ok, now just clarify, i am not building a pc. is there a company that you guys would recommend? i know someone mentioned sandy bridge, are there any others? ive been looking at cyberpower and ibuypower but maby there are some that i haven't heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:56 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:56 AM Sandy bridge isn't a computer company, it's the name for a series of intel processors. Ibuypower is 'ok', but if your not building it yourself your getting ripped off. It's not that hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Kolin Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:19 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:19 AM ok, now if i were to go with a phenom ii x4 over an intel i5 2400 or 2500, would there be much of a performance loss on clouds with an AMD? cause i see youtube videos of guys running high settings on both chips, but i never see any videos of them going through thick clouds. for some reason clouds have always been a big thing with me, im not so much of an autogen or water effects guy, i mostly fly IFR flights with 737's and that type of stuff so that's why clouds are important. It depends what is the limiting factor in cloud rendering - the GPU, the CPU speed or the overall bandwidth of the CPU? I believe it's CPU speed, and this is still an area where raw Mhz and IPC wins. Get the Intel. AMDs are cheaper for a reason. Cheers! Luke ... I spawn hundreds of children a day. They are daemons because they are easier to kill. The first four remain stubbornly alive despite my (and their) best efforts. ... Normal in my household makes you a member of a visible minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:42 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:42 AM I disagree with Luke here. Although you may very well see a performance increase with the Intel, it's unlikely it will be worth the extra price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Kolin Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:53 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:53 AM Although you may very well see a performance increase with the Intel, it's unlikely it will be worth the extra price. It depends. If that performance increase gets you to your minimum requirement, then one can take your statement and turn it on its head: no amount of savings will be worth the decreased performance. For an FS9 rig, I'm pretty certain that the i5 with its dynamic overclocking is your best bet since FS9 is all about clock speed and IPC. Having 6 cores at a gigahertz below what an i5 can boost to gives one no advantage. For FSX it's a little less clear, but based on the descriptions that Phil Taylor provided when multi-threading was introduced in SP1, it appears that they were able to parallelize texture load and little more. FSX was fundamentally based around fewer, faster cores. Of course, what's also missing here is how much additional performance is worth. Considering that I keep an FS rig for 2 or 3 years, I'd gladly pay an extra $200 for better performance. Others might not. Cheers! Luke ... I spawn hundreds of children a day. They are daemons because they are easier to kill. The first four remain stubbornly alive despite my (and their) best efforts. ... Normal in my household makes you a member of a visible minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Giordano Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:59 AM Author Posted March 28, 2011 at 01:59 AM yeah but to build, its about $180 through tiger direct,and then another $100 for windows, so your at $280 before they even put in the first screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:07 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:07 AM You really should build it yourself. Luke, I get excellent performance from a fairly old Phenom II X2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Giordano Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:08 AM Author Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:08 AM i would but i dont know how to lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM Posted March 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM It's not too hard, you can probably find a decent guide for it. The question is if your time is worth the money you save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erhan Atesoglu 1050499 Posted March 28, 2011 at 03:21 PM Posted March 28, 2011 at 03:21 PM Luke is right. The AMD processor is basically an overpriced Core Duo at this point. There is no advantage at all price or computing wise. You are better off with the cheaper Core Duo. Also as pointed out it's all about the single fast core. Despite the advancements in DX11 the fastest way to feed the GPU is by using a single core, nevermind the existing limitations with DX9 which really has no support for multiple cores. http://www.pond64.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Giordano Posted April 2, 2011 at 04:58 PM Author Posted April 2, 2011 at 04:58 PM well guys i went ahead and purchased a PC yesterday. You probably never heard of the company but i got it from "Georgia Computer Workshop". I believe they are a small business located in Atlanta, GA. Nothing but good reviews from them from what ive seen. basic specs: i5 2400 ATI Saphire 5670 1GB 4GB DDR3 500GB hard drive lol should be better than my Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.6GHz and my Intel 82865G integrated graphics controller that im using right now. i did have the nvidia 7600gs for a little over 4 years but the fan stopped working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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