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David Lee
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Graham Woodley
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Great to see SEA_N_FSS online this afternoon.

 

Hope it can get full approval.

 

Well done David and everyone for getting it up.

 

Graham - (Just a pilot)

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Tim Wong
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ASEA/South East Asia Control/VYYF+VTBB+VVTS+VVGL+VDPP+VLVT+WAAF+WIIF+WABZ+WADZ+WSJC+WMFC+WBFC+RPHI

 

Hello David,

 

it's good see there is more and more ATC coverage in (South) Asia, so vPilots like me do not have to fly on UNICOM anymore. It is the right way to develop VATIM - not only Southeast Asia - to get more flight activities in such regions.

 

I have one question left: Why does Hongkong FIR not be covered by SEA_FSS? I've thought vACC Hongkong is member of VATSEA.

 

Regards,

Timmy

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David Lee
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Rick

Thank you for your post. It was by no means easy but we got to where we are with sheer perseverance and motivation! All of this would have been impossible without Deepan mainly along with Peter and Miguel plus some SE Asia Directors too...We'll achieve the ultimate goal and like Deepan say, there still are some clear cut technicalities to be sorted before it's approved for the long run.

 

Deepan

I echo your words... we will get there

 

Graham

Us too! We hope that is does get full approval...time will tell.

 

Timmy

First off nice to meet you - I appreciate you post. That's the idea; more activeness in the region in terms of flight, without forgetting added control coverage. I hope this increased amount will get local ATC in the area to "hop on" more often.

To answer your question about Hong Hong, they've simply decided to watch from the sidelines and monitor the progress to see how far this project will go. They do not rule out the possibility of joining though... perhaps they will... it's one of these answers that get: time will tell.

My best,

David Lee

EUC Director

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Rahul Parkar
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After watching this thread,

 

May I say to all parties involved, you guys have done a great job in coming up with a concept, ironing out issues, and going into the testing phase.

 

I hope this trial is successful, and I will definitely fly in VATSEA more during the trial!

 

Cheers!

Rahul

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Romano Lara
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I echo Rahul's sentiments. A great job to all parties involved, in to conceptualizing a what could be a tremendous help to the division.

 

Looking forward to more updates!

Romano Lara
vACC Philippines, Manager - Training & Standards
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Patrik Yngver
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Also looking forward to this, I've had my doubts, and still have some, but I'm going to try and clock some time on this position and see how I like it. For VATSIM it's a good thing, especially in this region of the world that might have less flights than one small European center have at one given time!

Patrik Yngvér

VATSIM Thailand vACC Deputy Director

C3 ENR Controller

ESNO, Sweden

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David Lee
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After watching this thread, may I say to all parties involved, you

guys have done a great job in coming up with a concept, ironing out issues, and

going into the testing phase.

 

I hope this trial is successful, and I will definitely fly in VATSEA more during the

trial!

Hi Rahul,

 

The BoG and EC have approved the station and service. Now a few more

technicalities need to be sorted like a website explaining on the functionality of

this FSS...etc. Thanks for those kind words...indeed see you in the area!

 

I echo Rahul's sentiments. A great job to all parties involved, in

to conceptualizing a what could be a tremendous help to the division.

Looking forward to more updates!

 

Hello Romano,

 

Update alert

Like I commented to Rahul: it's been a success! A few things to brush up and

we're on our way to resemble EuroControl. Well...almost

 

Also looking forward to this, I've had my doubts, and still have

some, but I'm going to try and clock some time on this position and see how I like

it. For VATSIM it's a good thing, especially in this region of the world that might

have less flights than one small European center have at one given time!

 

Patrik! Welcome to the discussion,

 

By all means, do contact me to 'clock' some hours and I'll be sending you a few

docomeents that you'll need to cover this airspace if you'd like...although I might

have already done so. Anyways any clouds that need a dissipating, let me know -

I'll explain to you and with bit of luck, you'll be doubt-free

 

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Update

 

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Success!

It's with great pride and honor to announce that the trial period is finally over and

the long await for the answer has came through; it is now a permanent station, we

can all expect some wonderful services by our controllers certified to proved

professional top-down coverage within South East Asia.

 

 

Callsign Explained

ASEA_FSS stands for Asia South East Asia Flight Service Station. However the

radio-telephony callsign is: "South East Asia Control." We simply use the _FSS suffix

to enable us to have the extended range of cover. Just like EuroControl and

Russian, African services.

 

 

Split Sector Explained

I realise that there might be some confusion with the callsign -N_ and -S_ of the

FSS. Let me explain a little bit and you all can post your quarries bellow.

 

By default the log in callsign is ASEA-N_FSS. Reason we have -N_ is to avoid

controllers having to log out and back in again, change the frequency... (etc) all

that which is, or can be, a h[Mod - Happy Thoughts]le. We have decided that the Northern sector covers

the whole area of South East Asia.

This will remain until the Southern sector arrives online. When there IS a split sector

the -S_ is responsible for the all the W FIRs.

 

 

The Whole Area of ASEA

3,500 NM of airspace, the FIRs covered:

 

- RPHI, Manila

- VYYF, Rangoon

- VTBB, Bangkok

- VVTS, Ho Chi Minh

- VVGL, Hanoi

- VDPP, Phnom Penh

- VLVT, Vientiane

- WAAF, Ujung

- WIIF, Jakarta

- WSJC, Singapore

- WMFC, Lumpur

- WBFC, Kinabalu

 

 

So in simple terms it's:

 

-N_ = All (until -S_ online)

-S_ = W FIRs only

 

 

Airspace - Top-Down Explained

We offer Delivery upto Centre (top-down) services to 13 major airports within

SE Asia. These featured airports are:

 

- RPLL,

- VDPP,

- VTBD,

- VTBS,

- VVNB,

- VLVT,

- VVTS,

- VYYY,

- WADD,

- WBSB,

- WIII,

- WMKK,

- WSSS

 

If you are not in these airports then you may contact p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing FL 245. The whole

FIRs are covered FL 245 and above unless if you're within a TMA zone of the

above mentioned list.

 

Flights cruising level below FL 245 but inside a featured airport can expect service up

to Approach area thence to unicom.

Flights crusing level below FL 245 but not inside a featured airport can expect to

monitor the unicom frequency.

 

 

VFR Flights

VFR flights are not required to contact ASEA Control nor do we expect them to. If you

are VFR at a featured airport, your are kindly asked to monitor the unicom frequency for

circuits, remaining in the pattern.

VFR outbound within a featured airport can expect services up to Tower airspace.

VFR outbound not within a featured airport can expect to monitor the unicom

frequency.

 

Requirements to Join (Local / Visiting)

Are you interested in providing Top-Down services? Here is a list:

 

Option 1:

 

- Are you a home controller for VATSEA

- Have you a C1 Rating (or higher)

- Have you completed 250 hours or more in your local _CTR facility

 

If you have replied yes to the above, do not hesitate to contact

david_lee2604(a)hotmail.com [replace the (a) with @]

 

Did you reply no the one of the above? Then continue reading

below, there might just be the right module for you to follow.

 

Option 2

Are you a controller for:

 

- EuroControl FSS (Including Maastricht)

- Russian FSS

- African FSS

- Gulf FSS

- Oceanic FSS

- C1 Rating (or higher)

- Completed 250 hours or more in your FSS facility

 

If you have replied yes to the above, do not hesitate to contact

david_lee2604(a)hotmail.com [replace the (a) with @]

 

 

Have you by any chance replied no to the above? Then all you need

is to follow:

 

Option 3

 

- Become a visiting controller in one of the SE Asia FIRs

- Have a C1 rating or higher

- Complete 250 hours in your visiting FIR _CTR facility

 

If you have replied yes to the above, do not hesitate to contact

david_lee2604(a)hotmail.com [replace the (a) with @]

 

 

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Hope this clarifies a few questions!

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My best,

David Lee

EUC Director

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Tim Wong
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David,

 

wow - thank you very much for the detailed explanation and also your faithful courage on VATSIM. I hope Hongkong vACC - Asia's hotspot but without much ATC - will decides to join this great project soon.

 

Looking forward for heavy traffic in South Est Asia.

Do you want your Virtual Airline to become an official partner on VATSIM or to participate in the VAA Program?
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VATSIM.net Virtual Airlines and Special Operations Administration
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Romano Lara
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Congratulations, David! Your hardwork has finally paid off greatly.

Romano Lara
vACC Philippines, Manager - Training & Standards
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David Lee
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Timmy,

 

You're more than welcome...hope you put the information to good use and that my

novel was a tad bit helpful if not too confusing! I hope when we get the website

up it'll be more clearer.

As for HKG I too "hope Hong Kong vACC - Asia's hotspot but without much ATC - will

decide to join this great project soon" some time in the near, not too distant future.

I'll make certain that all are informed if HKG joins us!

 

Romano,

 

Thanks.

My best,

David Lee

EUC Director

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David Lee
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Dear all,

 

Update alert... we're soon to impliment:

 

ASEA-N_FSS > 135.350

ASEA-S_FSS > 135.970

Basically what this chage does:

 

  1. Enables persons to see the split sector adequately
  2. Is there is no more full area coverage now from ASEA-N_FSS. This sector is
    responsible only for RPHI, VDPP, VLVT,VVGL, VVTS, VTBB, VYYF
  3. The ASEA-S_FSS sector is responsible for all the W FIRs: WAAF, WBFC, WIIF,
    WMFC, WSJC
  4. The Top Down Cover shall continue at the same airports. No chage will occur

 

I know it's rather short notice BUT is it my strong opinion and a few others that

this is the best way. We have all tested and come to a consensus about the

mattrer.

We have had a month to test and this is the best possible (we feel) answer to

provide services adequately on the VATSIM network.

 

 

Now to the good stuff. If you update your VATSPY, Servinfo to reflect the change

(I promise it's the last time we'll ask you to edit)

 

Servinfo Users

Please add this to the .dat file under [uIR]

 

ASEA-N/South East Asia Control/VYYF+VTBB+VVTS+VVGL+VDPP+VLVT+RPHI

ASEA-S/South East Asia Control/WAAF+WIIF+WABZ+WADZ+WSJC+WMFC+WBFC

 

For VATSPY

Vatspy users like myself you'll need to open your start menu and type in" %appdata%\VAT-Spy ".

Open the file and locate the .dat file. Open it under [uIRs] you need to add:

 

ASEA-N|South East Asia Control|VYYF,VTBB,VVTS,VVGL,VDPP,VLVT,RPHI

ASEA-S|South East Asia Control|WAAF,WIIF,WSJC,WMFC,WBFC

 

To remove doubt as much as possible, this is what the stations will look like:

 

ASEA-N_FSS

ASEA-S_FSS

 

My best,

David Lee

EUC Director

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Pedro Diogo 985361
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Should you require any [Mod - Happy Thoughts]istance or wish to learn more from the EuroCenter vACC please do not hesitate to be in touch.

Pedro Diogo

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