Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM If you use vPilot over a network and you are experiencing jerky movement of aircraft, please try the new version I put up for download: http://vpilot.metacraft.com/DownloadBeta.aspx This version is an open beta test version, meaning it has not been thoroughly tested by the internal beta team. I've done basic testing with it on my home network, but that's it. So don't be surprised if there are some new bugs. To make the smooth aircraft movement work over a network, you need to install this version on BOTH the vPilot computer and the FSX computer. Then, on the FSX computer, run JUST the TrafficProxy program that is installed with this new version. (Don't run the main vPilot program on the FSX computer.) You'll see a shortcut in your Start Menu Programs List. (Or run the TrafficProxy.exe that you see in the vPilot install folder, %LOCALAPPDATA%\vPilot. Then, run JUST the main vPilot program on the remote computer as usual. When you run the TrafficProxy on the FSX machine, a small box will appear and give you some feedback messages about connecting to the simulator, discovering aircraft, etc. The main vPilot window on the remote computer will show some additional messages about detecting when the TrafficProxy is connected or disconnected. With the TrafficProxy running on the FSX machine, it will handle the smooth position updates for your aircraft, and the main vPilot window on the remote machine will still handle everything else, including creating the aircraft, model matching, voice, chat, filing flight plans, etc. Also, if you press CTRL-S with the TrafficProxy window active, you'll see a setup window where you can set up a PTT keyboard key or joystick button on the FSX machine. The PTT button/key presses will be sent to the main vPilot window on the remote computer. This way you can set up PTT on the FSX machine even though vPilot is running remotely, without using FSUIPC and WideFS to send the button/key press across the network. The headset still needs to be plugged into the machine running the main vPilot window. Note that the TrafficProxy and main vPilot window communicate with each other via SimConnect client data calls, which is why there is no need to configure the TrafficProxy with the IP of the vPilot machine. This version also fixes the issue where vPilot's user interface will lock up when it tries to connect to FSX over a network and FSX isn't running or your SimConnect.cfg file isn't set up right. Here are some other updates in this open beta version: - 0002080: Establish SimConnect connection on background thread. - 0002063: Increase radio volume. - 0002051: Implement network traffic proxy in order to achieve smooth aircraft movement in networked configuration. - 0002076: Increase brightness of non-directed radio text messages. - 0002071: Improve landing light logic. - 0002077: Change wording of missing model error to be more descriptive. - 0002074: Retain existing values when loading a flight plan that omits some values. - 0002066: Add minimize button. Network users, please give this a try and respond here with your results. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wheeler Posted May 24, 2014 at 12:50 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 12:50 AM Wow Ross! That is a lot of work. Will definitely test it and thanks for the fix. Regards, VATSIM: P1|C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wheeler Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:26 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:26 AM Hi Ross, I noticed one bug with the new version. When an aircraft takes off and banks left, the aircraft does turn left, but the model banks right. Let me know what additional information you need. Regards, VATSIM: P1|C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:33 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:33 AM Is that with the TrafficProxy running or without? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wheeler Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:46 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:46 AM With the traffic proxy running. VATSIM: P1|C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:11 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:11 AM Okay, I think I know what's causing that ... fix coming soon. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:23 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:23 AM FYI, that may not be anything introduced with the new version. A few ZLA controllers noted seeing this exact behavior on previous versions. (Not sure what the common denominator is/was... don't think I saw it, but maybe I just wasn't paying much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:34 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:34 AM Yeah, that's probably the case, because the thing that I thought might cause that, isn't really a problem. So most likely this issue has existed before this beta version. Marc: Did you see it with more than one aircraft? Do you remember any callsigns? Did you happen to have network traffic logging going at the time? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Malek Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:47 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:47 AM The new client is working great! No more stutters! Thanks! I too am seeing the turn and opposite bank issue. So far I noticed it with our VA model set (CXAXXX call-signs) as we just did our usual Friday event. Unfortunately I did not have any logging running at the time. Thanks! Cheers, Todd. VATSIM: P1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:55 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 03:55 AM Todd and Marc, I just saw the issue happen myself at KPIT ... I checked, and the other pilot is running vPilot (not the beta version.) Any idea if the aircraft you saw this happen with were using vPilot? I imagine so. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wheeler Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:05 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:05 AM Confirmed they were using vPilot. It was Todd was the aircraft that I noticed that had the banking issue. VATSIM: P1|C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:06 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:06 AM I've checked a half a dozen aircraft at PIT tonight and they're all exhibiting the issue, and they're all using vPilot. I'm trying to find one that's not using vPilot and is airborne and turning, but so far everyone is using vPilot, which is great. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:10 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:10 AM It's starting to sound like a "D'oh! So left is negative..." is coming on from a developer of a certain pilot client, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:18 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 04:18 AM Ahem ... I blame the beta testers for not catching this during beta. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 05:20 AM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 05:20 AM This is fixed ... I'll roll out a new version soon. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Grant Posted May 24, 2014 at 06:59 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 06:59 AM Ross great work Network now smooth as I too have noticed the opposite lock syndrome..acft banks right..model banks left. ans this was before traffic proxy One thing I have noticed so far with traffic proxy is that occasionally the Ai traffic appears to just stop or the sim freeze momentarily then continue on smmmmmooootthhllyyy Regards Rob Regards Rob P1/P2/P3 /C3/ VATAME1 (retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted May 24, 2014 at 07:46 AM Posted May 24, 2014 at 07:46 AM Ross, great job....installed right now and made a quick test. Aircraft movement on the ground is smooth as silk. Didn't have the time for a full test over an entire flight. I'll do it later on today and report back. Thanks a lot..! Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 01:00 PM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 01:00 PM One thing I have noticed so far with traffic proxy is that occasionally the Ai traffic appears to just stop or the sim freeze momentarily then continue on smmmmmooootthhllyyy That usually indicates that there is some internet lag in the position updates coming from the aircraft. It'll happen with or without the proxy. However, one thing that you will only see with the proxy is a 5 second pause in the aircraft's movement if you start the proxy after you're already connected with planes in the air. That pause happens when the proxy "takes over" from the main vPilot window to handle aircraft position smoothing. Normally you won't see this because normally you'll have the proxy running already when you connect to VATSIM. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Grant Posted May 24, 2014 at 01:40 PM Posted May 24, 2014 at 01:40 PM Thanks Ross..Ill keep an eye on it. Regards Rob P1/P2/P3 /C3/ VATAME1 (retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Steen Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:47 PM Posted May 24, 2014 at 02:47 PM Thank you Ross, works great now with the proxy! Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted May 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM Posted May 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM Ross, I tested the Beta release today on an EGKK-LGTS flight. AI traffic was very very smooth (very well done...!). However, I had an OOM crash almost at the end of the flight more than three hours since departure. I don't know if it may be somehow related to the new Beta installation on the main PC, however I hadn't had OOM for ages since today and it seems just more than a coincidence. What's your thoughts on this ? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 24, 2014 at 10:47 PM Author Posted May 24, 2014 at 10:47 PM What's your thoughts on this ? I don't see how it could be related, but who knows ... FSX is a finicky beast. I would suggest you keep trying and if it keeps happening, try running an older version (if you can handle the stuttering movement) and see if it happens with an older version. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Steen Posted May 24, 2014 at 11:08 PM Posted May 24, 2014 at 11:08 PM I haven't noticed any change in my VAS usage after starting to use the proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Duran 1176670 Posted May 25, 2014 at 01:36 AM Posted May 25, 2014 at 01:36 AM Hi Ross. I 've just installed the new beta version. Aircrafts position updates are smoooooooooth!!!! I also noticed the opposite bank/turn direction issue... a FDX (mapped to VIP texture) and a VIR (mapped to a default A321). Regards. Duran. ______________ Marcelo Duran VATBRZ C1 - P2 VATSIM Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted May 25, 2014 at 02:03 AM Author Posted May 25, 2014 at 02:03 AM The opposite bank issue has been there since the start of the closed beta ... just didn't get caught. Only happens if the other pilot is also using vPilot. I have fixed it and will release a new version soon. Just want to give the open beta a bit more time to run. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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