2017 VATSpy Update Suggestion Thread

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Hello,

Can you please add:

Euro Control South - EURS_FSS : LTAA

LTUP|Turkey Control|LTBB,LTAA > LTAA|Turkey Control|LTBB,LTAA

 

Hello Sergejs,

 

LTAA added to EuroControl South (EURS).

 

Regarding your second request:

LTAA is already defined as "normal" FIR (e. g. lower & upper airspace), it's not possible to define it as upper area control, too (you need a separate callsign to do so). Could you please verify?

[Sergejs Jakubovskis]

Hello,

Can you please add:

Euro Control South - EURS_FSS : LTAA

LTUP|Turkey Control|LTBB,LTAA > LTAA|Turkey Control|LTBB,LTAA

 

Hello Sergejs,

 

LTAA added to EuroControl South (EURS).

 

Regarding your second request:

LTAA is already defined as "normal" FIR (e. g. lower & upper airspace), it's not possible to define it as upper area control, too (you need a separate callsign to do so). Could you please verify?

 

This is according TRvACC official web info:

http://www.trvacc.org/13-news/190-ltaa-ctr-ankara-control-covers-entire-turkish-airspace.html

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Hello,

This is according TRvACC official web info:

http://www.trvacc.org/13-news/190-ltaa-ctr-ankara-control-covers-entire-turkish-airspace.html

 

This has nothing to do with Turkey Upper (LTUP). But anyway, thanks for pointing this out, will be done for the next update.

 

Btw, do you know if Istanbul FIR (LTBB) is now completely removed or still exists as "sub-sector" of LTAA (with new callsign "Ankara Control")?

[Sergejs Jakubovskis]

Btw, do you know if Istanbul FIR (LTBB) is now completely removed or still exists as "sub-sector" of LTAA (with new callsign "Ankara Control")?

 

One Sector LTBA_CTR Ankata Control

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

One Sector LTBA_CTR Ankata Control

 

Rgr, thanks!

[Behroz Baloch]

Please add Sectorization of Saudi Jeddah Fir and Karachi and Lahore FIR in Pakistan.

Link to sectors provided below:

 

Jeddah FIR:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_uFJ6jzcdxobExiaHJMaER1TFE

 

Karachi & Lahore FIR:

https://preview.ibb.co/cMahGa/KARACHI_FIR.png

https://preview.ibb.co/ecatNF/LAHORE.png

 

Regards.

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Please add Sectorization of Saudi Jeddah Fir and Karachi and Lahore FIR in Pakistan.

Link to sectors provided below:

 

Jeddah FIR:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_uFJ6jzcdxobExiaHJMaER1TFE

 

Karachi & Lahore FIR:

https://preview.ibb.co/cMahGa/KARACHI_FIR.png

https://preview.ibb.co/ecatNF/LAHORE.png

 

Regards.

 

Hello Behroz,

 

please provide a list of coordinates for the sectors (Jeddah, Karachi and Lahore), e. g. from Euroscope files.

 

Thanks!

[Bradley Grafelman]

Christoph,

 

Can you explain why all of the following entries are in VATSpy.dat ?

KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|LAX|KZLA|0
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|LA|KZLA|0
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|SOCAL|KZLA|1
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|SOCA|KZLA|1
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|SCAL|KZLA|1
KLAX|SOCAL Combined|33.942536|-118.408075|SCT|KZLA|1
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|SC|KZLA|1
KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|SL|KZLA|1

As it stands, it looks like VAT-Spy is (for some reason) matching both the first and fourth lines simultaneously and drawing two labels at the same location:

 

IMHO, the only valid entries in the list above would be the first and sixth (the one to cover SCT_APP). When I pare down the above list to just those two entries:

KLAX|Los Angeles Intl CA|33.942536|-118.408075|LAX|KZLA|0
KLAX|SoCal Combined|33.942536|-118.408075|SCT|KZLA|1

 

then VAT-Spy only draws the "KLAX" label as I would have expected.

 

If you can explain where all of the extra entries came from... I'd be very curious to know. Otherwise... consider the above shortened list for KLAX a requested replacement for the current list.

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Hello Bradley,

 

I cannot explain you why all of these entries are there or who added them, definitely it wasn't me.

 

However, thanks for pointing this out, corrected & available in the next update.

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Hello all,

 

as you might have noticed lately a new network viewer utility is now available (Accomeap) which I think has quite good potential. In order to avoid unnecessary "double workload" I decided to stop providing updates for VATSpy. Thanks for your understanding.

[Toby Rice 1245046]

This looks like the right thread, but please correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

What will it take to update the Honolulu airspace name and identifier for VATSPY?

 

We want to replace:

PHZH with HCF

Honolulu FIR, USA with Honolulu Control Facility, USA

HNL_CTR -> HCF_CTR

 

Thanks in advance

[Andrew Ogden]

This looks like the right thread, but please correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

What will it take to update the Honolulu airspace name and identifier for VATSPY?

 

We want to replace:

PHZH with HCF

Honolulu FIR, USA with Honolulu Control Facility, USA

HNL_CTR -> HCF_CTR

 

Thanks in advance

 

See the post just above yours. Chris has stopped providing updates for VATSPY. The Accomeap team can work on the sectors for you if you can provide us with the sector information. http://accomeap-project.com/dash/sectors

[Bill Ruppel]

Christoph,

 

It's a real pity you decided to go that way, because - IMHO of course - Accomeap, in it's current state, is simply not a suitable replacement for VatSpy.

 

Would you please make the latest VatSpy update available again for download?

 

Thanks.

[Callum McLoughlin]

I agree Bill. I am having terrible trouble with Accomeap as it seems to struggle to run efficiently on my PC and is rather slow I am sure it will be a great tool in time to come once it is optimised and has matured.

[Sachin Gnath]

Bill & Callum

 

The latest VATSpy Update provided by Chris can be downloaded by following this link : https://github.com/IndiavACC/VAT-Spy-Data-Files-Update-2017

[Trevor Hannant]

Thank you (another VATSpy preferee)

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

Just a few notes to your previous requests (yes, I still follow this topic from time to time ):

 

We have at Austria 2 new station, and hopefully you could intigrate it into the System.

 

LOVV_N_APP -> provide APP service for LOWL and LOWS

LOVV_S_APP -> provide APP service for LOWG and LOWK

 

Don't know if this is possible

 

Unfortunately not possible with VATSpy in its current state. VATSpy cannot determine any sub-sectors by underscores, e. g. LOVV_N_APP is handled the same way as LOVV_APP. Only solution would be to [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign another callsign to both units without underscores, for example LOVV-N_APP.

 

What will it take to update the Honolulu airspace name and identifier for VATSPY?

 

We want to replace:

PHZH with HCF

Honolulu FIR, USA with Honolulu Control Facility, USA

HNL_CTR -> HCF_CTR

 

Replacing the FIR designator which is shown as label inside VATSpy, that is "PHZH" with "HCF", is no optimal solution because VATSpy will then think the FIR is located in Somalia ("HC" is its country ID ). If you replace the FIR description "Honolulu" with "Honolulu Control Facility", VATSpy will display this as "Honolulu Control Facility FIR" or, if controlled, as "Honolulu Control Facility Center" which is a bit weird IMO. Thus my suggestion: add the following line

PHZH|Honolulu|HCF|PHZH

to VATSpy.dat and leave the rest unchanged.

 

I see you still have strong "bindings" to VATSpy, but always keep in mind that the software itself will likely not be updated in the future and has some strong technical limitations, especially in displaying sub-sectors.

[Jiong Sheng Hoo]

Hi Chris,

 

it is really sad that you decided to stop after all these years of keeping this simple and lightweight albeit slightly limited in functionality, but gives us all the basic and essential info we need. Thank you so much all these years, and if you do decide to do a little update again (which I really hope you do), make sure to let us know

 

Thanks once again, and all the best!

[Robert Shearman Jr]

Those interested in continued VAT-Spy updates may be curious to read the following:

https://forums.vatusa.net/index.php?topic=7696.0

[Rahul Parkar]

I'll tell you what, I appreciate all the work that Christoph has put into this so far. He's really done a fantastic job and who could blame him for wanting to take a break (even if he does decide to check us out every now and again and see how the thread is going).

 

I'll be more than happy to take the latest update that Sachin has provided and update it with any updates you guys have in the mean time.

 

Once I have the first set of changes I'll provide you all a link to download and we'll go from there, I'm more than willing to keep this going as I still use VATSpy and will do as Accomeap doesn't quite suit my needs (even though it's a brilliant piece of software)

 

Cheers!

Rahul

[Trevor Hannant]

See also here:

 

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=75600

[Sachin Gnath]

I'll tell you what, I appreciate all the work that Christoph has put into this so far. He's really done a fantastic job and who could blame him for wanting to take a break (even if he does decide to check us out every now and again and see how the thread is going).

 

I agree with you Rahul, IMO if Chris needs a break let him take it after all this is just a volunteer work.

 

I'll be more than happy to take the latest update that Sachin has provided and update it with any updates you guys have in the mean time.

 

Thanks for stepping up.

[Alex Long]

After discussions with Ross Carlson, and a few volunteers coming forward, Caribbean Division (VATCAR) has officially taken on responsibility of future VAT-Spy updates. URL for this project is http://vatspy.vatcar.org/.

[Christoph Reule 1379750]

After discussions with Ross Carlson, and a few volunteers coming forward, Caribbean Division (VATCAR) has officially taken on responsibility of future VAT-Spy updates. URL for this project is http://vatspy.vatcar.org/.

 

Alex,

 

does this also refer to updates on airport data?

 

IMO, won't it be easier to catch such requests (delete, add or modify airports) here at a separate forum thread? They could be fetched up regularly, transformed in "XML snippets" and sent to you via mail. Requirement: users must provide valid proofs for their requests.

 

What do you think?

[Alex Long]

After discussions with Ross Carlson, and a few volunteers coming forward, Caribbean Division (VATCAR) has officially taken on responsibility of future VAT-Spy updates. URL for this project is http://vatspy.vatcar.org/.

 

Alex,

 

does this also refer to updates on airport data?

 

IMO, won't it be easier to catch such requests (delete, add or modify airports) here at a separate forum thread? They could be fetched up regularly, transformed in "XML snippets" and sent to you via mail. Requirement: users must provide valid proofs for their requests.

 

What do you think?

 

Christopher-

Any and all data [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with VAT-Spy we're maintaining, this includes Airports. We have two methods for data submission, either direct email or the preferred method of a pull request via GitHub.