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Airshows on VATSIM (restrictions and rules)?


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1 hour ago, Josh Jenk said:

So, Bill, how did you enforce rule A9? Just no observers allowed? Or did you allow people to watch given they were connected normally and had a valid flight plan filed?

If you don't mind I won't give the details of exactly how we achieved everything because the above mentioned self-appointed fun police will restart the stupid debates that I'd had enough of 13 years ago (and why the 2008 show never happened). Suffice to say read the letter of the law carefully and think laterally.

1 hour ago, Josh Jenk said:

As to the update interval of the pilot clients, isn’t that supposed to be drastically improved in the very near future?

That was easy because in 2005 FSInn had a "fast updates" peer-to-peer function where clients could update each other directly so formation flying was very achievable and very watchable. It worked an absolute treat and those who remember the "synchro DC3s" from the 2007 show will know just how brilliantly well it could be done. Whether Vatsim will catch up with that I don't know 😉

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On 4/24/2020 at 9:46 AM, Josh Jenk said:

 But I don’t think showing off an aircraft’s capabilities goes against those rules.

I started reading this thread, thinkin' that I was gonna get to join in an air show. But after dredging through and wading through all this stuff here, I don't get the point of even bringing it up to begin with. Does this mean that I , once again, won't get a chance to literally fly circles around these people online ? 🙃

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7 hours ago, Josh Jenk said:

Well considering that the thread was resurrected I will give an update to anyone who was wondering and say that the idea is far from dead 😉.

 

11 hours ago, Mats Edvin Aaro said:

If you didn't understand why it was brought up, why resurrect it after 7 months? 😛

I don't fully understand your question though..

Apparently, J.J. does understand my question, since he just answered it. 🙃

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7 hours ago, Josh Jenk said:

Well considering that the thread was resurrected I will give an update to anyone who was wondering and say that the idea is far from dead 😉.

Would like to see it work. Never been in anything like that on VATSIM. Maybe I won't miss it again, if it does happen. 🤷‍♀️

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12 hours ago, Josh Jenk said:

Well considering that the thread was resurrected I will give an update to anyone who was wondering and say that the idea is far from dead 😉.

Glad to hear it and the best of luck. It can become very time consuming but hugely rewarding. 

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Hello all (again),

Sorry to revive this thread but I figured it would probably be better to post an update here than starting a brand new thread. After working closely with Roger Curtiss from the BoG for the last 6 months or so, we have made fantastic progress to turn this idea into a reality. The plan right now is to hold the airshow on July 10th at CYXX. If anyone is interested, an official Discord server has been created where people can ask questions of both myself and our vSOA performers, get the latest updates surrounding the event, and get some hype going. Hope to see you there! https://discord.gg/BCCvX5PJHj

 

Cheers!

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Thanks Andreas! I’ll do my best to keep this thread updated with any major news but again the best and easiest way to get updates will be through the Discord server 🙂

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3 updates:

1. The event is now officially posted to my.vatsim.net/events. The show will start at 1800 zulu and run until 2100 zulu.spacer.png

2. The CZVR FIR will hold a fly-in at 1700 zulu until the start of the show and then a fly-out after the show until 2200 zulu.

3. Running an airshow is no small task! We're looking to add a few more members to our crew to help with the media/production side of things. If you're interested you can apply here: https://forms.gle/dakVQPBXunm6d3mP6

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I am genuinely surprised that airshows in VATSIM exist! I thought they were only allowed at FSX Default Multiplayer...

Also, someone said around here that the traffic refresh rate in VATSIM is a couple of seconds... I just wanted to say that VATSIM Velocity was recently announced. I am not in the testing group, but I hope to see it almost ready, if not fully, at some point during summer. I do not know it for sure, as I've already said, I am not a tester. But it would be nice to have it released (at least in a public beta) before the airshow. That would enhance the experience of both taking part in the show and viewing it. Watch out for the landings, though!

Anyways, I hope that you enjoy the show!

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Hey Carlos! It’s definitely something that hasn’t been done in a while on VATSIM.

I’m really stoked about VATSIM Velocity too and hopefully it’s out by the time of the show. But if it isn’t, we plan to use SWIFT’s “fast updates” option which allows anyone connected to VATSIM through SWIFT to see the show with almost no latency instead of the current 5 second latency.

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10 days to go! The lineup includes 6 organizations, 10+ individual performances, and 3 hours of fun-filled action. We can't wait to see you all there. Expect the pilot/spectator briefing to be published sometime very soon over the next couple days.

An airshow isn't really an airshow without the static displays! Do you have an interesting aircraft you want to show off to the world? Space is limited, sign up here: https://forms.gle/XiFEEukDafZmLMWQ8

We're still looking for a couple of announcers to join our team. PM me, join the discord (https://discord.gg/BCCvX5PJHj), or fill out the following form to apply (https://forms.gle/dakVQPBXunm6d3mP6).

Again, join our discord at the link above to keep recent with all the updates as they come in. See you in the virtual skies soon!

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How would static displays work? If you just connect with the aircraft, then all anyone else sees is whatever the model mapping spits out - and especially with highly unusual aircraft, that's most likely just going to be something generic. Or am I missing something here?

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Yes and no. Swift’s model matching (yeah for the best experience you’ll have to use SWIFT but that’s more for bypassing the network’s current latency) is pretty consistent so as long as you have the model or a similar model it should draw out the static display pretty accurately.

The issue of having the model is more a problem for xplane users as it seems like the current csl files aren’t too extensive. There’s tons of models for fsx and p3d so I don’t anticipate much of an issue there, especially if we publish recommended models to download (which is planned to go into the spectator briefing).

So yeah if people are flying in highly unusual aircraft (say experimental aircraft for example) then it may be a problem. But so far signups are pretty reasonable while at the same time being interesting  (747s, warbirds, etc.).

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Less than 24 hours to go! Here is the official schedule of operations for the day:

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As a reminder, the announcements and music will be streamed in our discord server (I've linked it multiple times in the posts above) and to a youtube stream as well (this will be ONLY audio, not video)(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXRLbufD85Bctim1ayWp3MA).

If you can't connect to VATSIM and watch it live there, a stream will be provided on Twitch with both the video and announcements (https://twitch.tv/abbotsfordvirtualairshow).

See you all at 18z tomorrow!

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