Martin Henne Posted May 20, 2020 at 08:15 PM Posted May 20, 2020 at 08:15 PM Preface: There was another thread with this title, and the thread starter declared his problem solved, without providing any details. The thread has been closed with no solution provided. For me, this problem is not solved and I assume to be not the only one having that problem. I want to start a productive exchange with others on what I tried and what they might have tried and maybe, the solution, that might has worked for the original threadstarter will be documented here. VATSIM and xPilot are available for free and I appreciate the work of the developers and the VATSIM community. So even if we don't find a fast solution, there's no reason to stop figuring out what might help or to get too frustated. The problem: When selecting plugins->xPilot->settings in the X-Plane pull down menu, no settings window appears. xPilot versions tested and behaviour: When using alpha versions of xPilot (tried 1.3.7 and 1.3.10) it is absolutely necessary to provide a path to the CSL-Files to get them working. The Beta version (I tried 1.2.1) recognized the CSL path automatically (at least on my system). When working on the problem, that no other aircraft can be seen, the first suggestion that comes up (to open the settings menu and check the settings) can't be applied. The settings does neither appear on xPilot 1.2.1, nor on 1.3.7 or 1.3.10. X-Plane Version and settings: I am using X-Plane Beta 11.50 with Vulkan and I learned already, that the beta of xPilot is not fully compatible with vulkan. I tried switching to OpenGL and tested all three xPilot versions (1.2.1, 1.3.7 and 1.3.10) again. Still no pull down menu. At least xPilot 1.3.7 produced a lot of crashes for me, while 1.2.1 works fine (except for the pull down menu and not showing other aircraft), so I am able to use VATSIM with X-Plane 11.50 BETA Vulkan, which is great nevertheless. Any help would be appreciated. best regards Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woods Posted May 21, 2020 at 12:10 PM Posted May 21, 2020 at 12:10 PM 15 hours ago, Martin Henne said: Preface: There was another thread with this title, and the thread starter declared his problem solved, without providing any details. The thread has been closed with no solution provided. For me, this problem is not solved and I assume to be not the only one having that problem. I want to start a productive exchange with others on what I tried and what they might have tried and maybe, the solution, that might has worked for the original threadstarter will be documented here. VATSIM and xPilot are available for free and I appreciate the work of the developers and the VATSIM community. So even if we don't find a fast solution, there's no reason to stop figuring out what might help or to get too frustated. The problem: When selecting plugins->xPilot->settings in the X-Plane pull down menu, no settings window appears. xPilot versions tested and behaviour: When using alpha versions of xPilot (tried 1.3.7 and 1.3.10) it is absolutely necessary to provide a path to the CSL-Files to get them working. The Beta version (I tried 1.2.1) recognized the CSL path automatically (at least on my system). When working on the problem, that no other aircraft can be seen, the first suggestion that comes up (to open the settings menu and check the settings) can't be applied. The settings does neither appear on xPilot 1.2.1, nor on 1.3.7 or 1.3.10. X-Plane Version and settings: I am using X-Plane Beta 11.50 with Vulkan and I learned already, that the beta of xPilot is not fully compatible with vulkan. I tried switching to OpenGL and tested all three xPilot versions (1.2.1, 1.3.7 and 1.3.10) again. Still no pull down menu. At least xPilot 1.3.7 produced a lot of crashes for me, while 1.2.1 works fine (except for the pull down menu and not showing other aircraft), so I am able to use VATSIM with X-Plane 11.50 BETA Vulkan, which is great nevertheless. Any help would be appreciated. best regards Martin Really really sorry but they closed my post because I was being accused of ranting and raving which is not really the case but is how they chose to see it . Anyway I can personally understand your frustration and I will find out what was done to solve the issue of not seeing AC in x pilot for myself and comeback to you when I can . There are a number of people all having the same problem and I would like to see resolution for all concerned . Will do what I can when I can . Gonna do some digging later on today . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted May 21, 2020 at 04:51 PM Author Posted May 21, 2020 at 04:51 PM Hello Paul, thank you. Looking forward to your ideas. Maybe a newer version someday in the not too distant future will also help. Martin (Btw: I am not frustrated. xPilot is free software, so I don't see myself in the position to make demands or to be frustated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted May 21, 2020 at 06:41 PM Posted May 21, 2020 at 06:41 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Martin Henne said: Hello Paul, thank you. Looking forward to your ideas. Maybe a newer version someday in the not too distant future will also help. Martin (Btw: I am not frustrated. xPilot is free software, so I don't see myself in the position to make demands or to be frustated.) Hi Martin, Are you by chance running X-Plane with multiple monitors (i.e your sim extends across two or more monitors)? Also, can you check to see if a config.json file got created in the X-Plane\Resources\plugins\xPilot\Resources folder? Can you upload your X-Plane log.txt file to a file sharing website, such as Google Drive? Edit: If you do have multiple monitors, but only one is used for X-Plane, try setting the second monitor to "Full Screen Simulator" and then try opening the settings again and check if the settings window appears on the second screen. Edited May 21, 2020 at 07:33 PM by Justin Shannon Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted May 22, 2020 at 02:52 PM Author Posted May 22, 2020 at 02:52 PM (edited) Hello Justin. Yes, I use 3 of my monitors for X-plane. In total I have 8 monitors connected. I use two for AirManager, One is a part of the RealSimGear GNS 430 and three are for the 3D view of X-Plane (one 75" front screen, two 27" side windows). The other two monitors are on a desk next to my sim. I sometimes run SkyDemon on one of them while flying. I put the Config.json and the Log.txt in this folder: 81.169.140.27/jshannon/ . I will remove them in a few days when you had a chance to download them. Thank you for working on the issue. best regards Martin Edited May 22, 2020 at 02:54 PM by Martin Henne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted May 23, 2020 at 01:07 AM Posted May 23, 2020 at 01:07 AM (edited) 14 hours ago, Martin Henne said: Hello Justin. Yes, I use 3 of my monitors for X-plane. In total I have 8 monitors connected. I use two for AirManager, One is a part of the RealSimGear GNS 430 and three are for the 3D view of X-Plane (one 75" front screen, two 27" side windows). The other two monitors are on a desk next to my sim. I sometimes run SkyDemon on one of them while flying. I put the Config.json and the Log.txt in this folder: 81.169.140.27/jshannon/ . I will remove them in a few days when you had a chance to download them. Thank you for working on the issue. best regards Martin Hi Martin, Give the newest alpha version (1.3.11) a try and let me know if the GUI windows work for you. Thanks. Edit: Disregard; The "fix" in the new release prevents the GUI window from being moved around. Back to the drawing board. Edit: Give 1.3.12 a try and let me know if you can see the GUI windows. Edited May 23, 2020 at 05:40 AM by Justin Shannon Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted May 23, 2020 at 11:39 AM Author Posted May 23, 2020 at 11:39 AM Hello Justin, I just tried. No joy. I just created a new folder on my server and put the files there, in case they help. same address as above. If I can try more, just let me know. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted May 23, 2020 at 06:20 PM Posted May 23, 2020 at 06:20 PM 6 hours ago, Martin Henne said: Hello Justin, I just tried. No joy. I just created a new folder on my server and put the files there, in case they help. same address as above. If I can try more, just let me know. Martin Thanks; it’ll be a couple of dats before I can look at them. Can you confirm for me that none of the plugin GUI windows work? Or is it just the settings window? Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted May 23, 2020 at 07:43 PM Author Posted May 23, 2020 at 07:43 PM Hello Justin, yes, I can confirm that all dialogs in the xPilot Pull-Down-Menu are affected. none appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted May 26, 2020 at 01:11 PM Posted May 26, 2020 at 01:11 PM Can you try running X-Plane using just one monitor and try opening the xPilot preferences window? Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted May 28, 2020 at 06:52 PM Author Posted May 28, 2020 at 06:52 PM (edited) Hello @Justin Shannon. Sorry for not answering earlier. I will try that on the weekend and report the result here. Do you still need the logfiles (the old ones)? and do you need logs for the one-monitor-test? EDIT (Friday): I just tried using only one Monitor in the X-Plane configuration. Unfortunately, I did not see the xPilot settings window. What I didn't try, is to disconnect the monitor physically, because with my homecockpit installation, connectors are not easily accessible. But I did set all monitors but one to "unused" instead of "full 3d view" (or something like that), so I saw the desktop background on them. Then i tried to open the plugins->xPilot->settings menu - nothing happened. I noticed, that the AI traffic re-appears when I shut down xPilot. In the ADS-B-Traffic warning as well as in the 3D view. There was no traffic at all with xPilot running. I just uploaded the Log.txt and the Config.json to the usual place. Thank you! Martin Edited May 29, 2020 at 09:48 PM by Martin Henne Updated the result of the next test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted June 2, 2020 at 12:00 PM Author Posted June 2, 2020 at 12:00 PM I guess that there's nothing more to do at the moment from my side. I will continue using the BETA for now and I will test new versions every now and then. Let me know, If you want me to perform a specific test or something. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted June 19, 2020 at 05:03 AM Posted June 19, 2020 at 05:03 AM On 6/2/2020 at 5:00 AM, Martin Henne said: I guess that there's nothing more to do at the moment from my side. I will continue using the BETA for now and I will test new versions every now and then. Let me know, If you want me to perform a specific test or something. Martin Hi Martin, Can you give the latest alpha version a try (as of writing, 1.3.15). I made a couple tweaks to the GUI window handling and I'm curious if it fixes your problem. Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted June 21, 2020 at 09:10 AM Author Posted June 21, 2020 at 09:10 AM Hello Shannon. I will try that within the next few days and will give feedback here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henne Posted July 18, 2020 at 01:12 PM Author Posted July 18, 2020 at 01:12 PM @Justin Shannon It took a while for me to find the time for another testrun. Te current status is: The pull down menus seem to work now. But when I use xPilot Version 1.3.19 x-plane crashes before I get a chance to check if I could see other traffic now or if it works in general. xPilot 1.2 does not cause the crash so even if I neither see the pull down menus nor I could see other traffic, I stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted July 18, 2020 at 03:45 PM Posted July 18, 2020 at 03:45 PM 2 hours ago, Martin Henne said: @Justin Shannon It took a while for me to find the time for another testrun. Te current status is: The pull down menus seem to work now. But when I use xPilot Version 1.3.19 x-plane crashes before I get a chance to check if I could see other traffic now or if it works in general. xPilot 1.2 does not cause the crash so even if I neither see the pull down menus nor I could see other traffic, I stick with it. Can you upload your X-Plane log.txt after the crash occurs? Also, look for a crash dump file and upload that as well. Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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