Kirk Christie Posted July 18, 2020 at 03:19 AM Posted July 18, 2020 at 03:19 AM 11 hours ago, Harry Sugden said: But if you're departing IFR from EGKA and intend on joining controlled airspace, I realise this is for the UK, however I do have a question in regards to this statement, purely to understand the ATS services provided here. Does an IFR aircraft that does not enter controlled airspace not receive a service from ATC? In other parts of the world, an IFR in G must always be in contact with ATC, and receive a traffic information service from the controller, is that not the case here? 1 Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Simon Kelsey Posted July 18, 2020 at 04:43 AM Board of Governors Posted July 18, 2020 at 04:43 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirk Christie said: I realise this is for the UK, however I do have a question in regards to this statement, purely to understand the ATS services provided here. Does an IFR aircraft that does not enter controlled airspace not receive a service from ATC? In other parts of the world, an IFR in G must always be in contact with ATC, and receive a traffic information service from the controller, is that not the case here? In a word, no. No clearance or contact with ATC is required to fly IFR in Class G airspace in the UK. Edited July 18, 2020 at 04:44 AM by Simon Kelsey 2 1 Vice President, Pilot Training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sweeney Posted July 18, 2020 at 10:58 PM Posted July 18, 2020 at 10:58 PM (edited) US airspace class G similar to UK = No IFR clearance and no ATC communication requirements for uncontrolled airspace.... in practical terms, most US airspace abv 700' or 1200' AGL is controlled (class E or better). Edited July 18, 2020 at 11:05 PM by Mike Sweeney 1 1 Mike / 811317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sugden Posted July 19, 2020 at 04:32 PM Posted July 19, 2020 at 04:32 PM There is the difference I guess; there are vast areas of UK airspace that are OCAS below FL195. Chart ENR6-7 shows the extent of controlled airspace (this link will most likely expire by next month, but it should work for now at least). 1 ATC Examiner, VATSIM UK No nonsense controlling Twitch - HazControl ✈️ @HVatsim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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