Maurizio Cinti Posted August 2, 2020 at 10:11 PM Posted August 2, 2020 at 10:11 PM HI, today PTT doesn't work as usual . I set a Joke button, via FSUIPC (keysend 1-255....etc..) and it had worked flawlessly for years. But today, no way. Installed latest FSUIPC release 6.0.10, latest WideFS 7.157. Obviously access is open to all PCs on private net, firewall off. LOG reports regular connection between host and remote. don't really figure out what else to do....help. Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 2, 2020 at 11:28 PM Posted August 2, 2020 at 11:28 PM Does vPilot recognize the yoke button directly without having to use FSUIPC? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 3, 2020 at 12:52 PM Author Posted August 3, 2020 at 12:52 PM (edited) Hmmm...... Host running on server pc (P3d's pc) sees the joke button . It reports Joystick 0 button 5, while Fsuipc reports it as button 4... Remote running on client Pc doesn't recognize the button. It's weird that until last week I had no problem, and nothing else has been changed... p.s.: when connect to Vatsim I can't hear controllers. Maybe new Prosim v3 has some issues with CPFlight radios linked in daisy chain to MCP ?? Maurizio Edited August 3, 2020 at 12:55 PM by Maurizio Cinti http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 3, 2020 at 02:18 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 02:18 PM I'm confused ... is your yoke plugged into the host or the remote? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 3, 2020 at 04:42 PM Author Posted August 3, 2020 at 04:42 PM Yoke is plugged into the main server Pc, where P3D runs, as is VPilot Host. Vpilot remote-voice is plugged into a client Pc Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 3, 2020 at 04:54 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 04:54 PM Then you should be able to just configure the yoke button as PTT on the host. You don't need to do anything with PTT on the remote. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 3, 2020 at 05:57 PM Author Posted August 3, 2020 at 05:57 PM (edited) Yes, that's the way it always worked until some days ago. Now, after upgrading to Prosim v3, remote seems not to recognize anymore button I click on yoke. Plus, I not even hear controllers I'm tuned to. What a mess ! Maurizio edit: In Prosim forum seems issue is full open to investigation regarding CPFlight modules in v3...https://prosim-ar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=20355&start=30 Edited August 3, 2020 at 07:03 PM by Maurizio Cinti http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 3, 2020 at 08:12 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 08:12 PM Are you saying that you are trying to configure PTT on the remote, and it's not recognizing the button press on the host? If that's what you're saying, then that is exactly what should be happening. The remote copy of vPilot cannot possibly detect a button press on a different computer. However, if you are saying that you have configured the PTT on the host, but then when you press the PTT, the transmit light does not light up on the remote, then that's a different issue. Let me know which of these two things is actually the case. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 3, 2020 at 09:51 PM Author Posted August 3, 2020 at 09:51 PM I used to press joke button (yoke connected to Host PC, the simulator machine) . This button was detected, as per instructions, in Fsuipc and set as Keysend 1-255 (Widefs) using the F12 button on remote (client PC). This method ran smoothly for years.... Now, after upgrade to Prosim v3, remote doesn't recognize press on the joke button. And radio communications are mute when tuned on Vatsim (I can't hear controllers, no lights are on). Accidentally, trying any solution, I noticed that in Host settings PTT was set as "joystick button n.5". Frankly, I never known that Host could set joke button......! Now, you say that remote cannot detect a button press on a different computer..... but that's was exactly the way things worked so far... I pressed joke button (connected to host pc) and remote saw that press and via Fsuipc/Widefs it returned the ptt command. At least, that's what I always understood about the matter, but I can be surely wrong.... Are you sure you can exclude some sort of issue regarding CPFlight drivers and Prosim v3 ? It looks like radios are completely inactive (all my CPFlight pedestal modules are daisy chained linked to MCP - MIP - etc...) Anyway, I appreciate your help ! Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 3, 2020 at 11:49 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 11:49 PM Right, the remote cannot detect a button press on a different computer. Using FSUIPC to convert the button press into a key press and send it via WideFS to the remote, that is not the same thing as the remote detecting the button press. The thing is, you don't need any of that. You can just configure the host to detect the button press, and you're done. No need for FSUIPC or WideFS. As for why your radios are inactive, that's a completely separate issue that I have not addressed yet. I have only addressed your PTT issue. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 4, 2020 at 07:51 AM Author Posted August 4, 2020 at 07:51 AM Wow ! I'm even more confused now . I followed the guide : http://vpilot.metacraft.com/Assets/Files/vPilotNetworkSetup.pdf I used to set ptt press button only on remote, and that worked . Using this method I never had problems to configure ptt on yoke via Fsuipc/Widefs on remote. Now you're telling me that I don't need Fsuipc o Widefs ? Then, I miss something . What I don't realize is why this method have worked for years and suddenly it stop . The only new aspect is Prosim v3, but what has this to do with the press button detect ? Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 4, 2020 at 03:40 PM Posted August 4, 2020 at 03:40 PM I don't know why your previous method stopped working. All I know is that you don't need FSUIPC and WideFS to have vPilot recognize a yoke button press. That PDF you found is from years ago before vPilot supported the remote/host split setup. There is a lot of old outdated information on the internet, and you found a piece of it. :D I will remove that PDF from the server so it doesn't confuse anyone else. All you need to do is follow the current instructions for configuring PTT and you should be fine. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 4, 2020 at 04:12 PM Author Posted August 4, 2020 at 04:12 PM I'm in a blind alley. Yes, that pdf is old, but I followed its instructions from the beginning of Vpilot, and all ran smooth for years. Surely there's something , stupid, tiny error somewhere that corrupted my system. In brief : -host captures yoke press button (joystick button n.5) -Fsuipc detect it as joystick button n.4 -remote DOES NOT recognize any press button -Vpilot connect regularly to Vatsim, but I can neither hear transmissions, nor send voice message.... - Host/remote connection is active and stable Maybe a uninstall/reinstall ? Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 4, 2020 at 05:23 PM Posted August 4, 2020 at 05:23 PM Maurizio, I encourage you to abandon that old, outdated method for remote PTT. You simply do not need it anymore, so why bother trying to get it working again? Sure, it's frustrating when something stops working and you don't know why, but if you don't need it anymore, why waste time on it? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 5, 2020 at 09:36 AM Author Posted August 5, 2020 at 09:36 AM I totally agree, I deleted Wideclient and follow what you advise... but still remote doesn't activate radio transmission, as ptt press button selected on host seems inactive. I miss something but don't know what. Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 5, 2020 at 03:23 PM Posted August 5, 2020 at 03:23 PM On the host, open the debug window, and press the PTT button. Does the debug window show messages indicating that the button press was detected? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:00 PM Author Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:00 PM Yes,it does Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:01 PM Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:01 PM Now try opening the debug window on the remote with the ".debug" command. Press the PTT on the host. Does the remote see the PTT events coming over the network? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:18 PM Author Posted August 7, 2020 at 02:18 PM Ross, sorry but I’m not at home now (at the sea for some days) so I can’t check it. I’ll check it next Wednesday😎 .... thank you Maurizio http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 7, 2020 at 04:10 PM Posted August 7, 2020 at 04:10 PM Sounds good, enjoy the sea! Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Cinti Posted August 22, 2020 at 09:23 AM Author Posted August 22, 2020 at 09:23 AM (edited) Now everything is running well, as usual... the only thing changed is a new Prosim737 v3 release. Don’t get what the hell...... Maurizio Edited August 22, 2020 at 09:23 AM by Maurizio Cinti http://www.sim737ng.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Baiocchi Posted September 1, 2020 at 09:19 AM Posted September 1, 2020 at 09:19 AM Hi, I also revealed this problem. With the simulator window open, the PTT key does not transmit any communication, but if I open Vpilot it transmits without any problem. I entered a key on the keyboard as a TX command, but if I don't open Vpilot I can't transmit anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted September 1, 2020 at 02:30 PM Posted September 1, 2020 at 02:30 PM 5 hours ago, Francesco Baiocchi said: Hi, I also revealed this problem. With the simulator window open, the PTT key does not transmit any communication, but if I open Vpilot it transmits without any problem. I entered a key on the keyboard as a TX command, but if I don't open Vpilot I can't transmit anything. This is not the same problem as stated in this post. For your issue, please check: 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Baiocchi Posted September 1, 2020 at 02:43 PM Posted September 1, 2020 at 02:43 PM 12 minutes ago, Ross Carlson said: Questo non è lo stesso problema indicato in questo post. Per il tuo problema, controlla: I entered a key on the keyboard as a TX command, but if I don't open Vpilot I can't transmit anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted September 1, 2020 at 05:32 PM Posted September 1, 2020 at 05:32 PM Did you read the post that I linked to? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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