John Huhn Posted December 17, 2021 at 11:20 PM Posted December 17, 2021 at 11:20 PM (edited) Good Evening All, I am very eager to start using VATSIM. I have been watching a lot of Youtube videos of pilots using Vatsim during their flights. I still have a lot of questions. For instance, when planning a flight via SimBrief, having ATIS information, do I choose a runway and SID/STAR for my flight, or should I only plan the waypoints outside of SID and STAR and wait for controller instruction to enter that information into the flight computer? Also, Do I program the flight computer for speed and altitude based on charts, or is that also instructed via ATC depending on situational data for the real time sim network? I want to have all my ducks in a row, before going live on the network and irritating a controller with my "newbieness" while they are trying to handle traffic. I really wish there was an event for new pilots to go live with ATC and "work out the kinks" before going live and risk annoying a controller or interupting ATC operations due to ignorance to a procedure of some sorts that may have been overlooked. I cant be the only one thinking this in depth can I? HELP! I am eager to go live and enjoy the full immersion of the network and simulator!!! Edited December 18, 2021 at 12:50 AM by John Huhn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Nicholas Cavacini Posted December 18, 2021 at 03:13 AM Board of Governors Posted December 18, 2021 at 03:13 AM First off, welcome to VATSIM! Seems like you've done a lot of research already, which is great! Your question regarding SID/STAR being assigned really depends on where you are flying. If you're flying in the US, you'll usually select the SID/STAR you want to fly on your own (unless the procedure says "assigned by ATC only"), in other areas of the world, such as Europe, the SID/STAR is generally assigned by ATC. In a controlled airport environment, runways will always be controller assigned, however you can get an understanding for what to expect through the field's ATIS, or if there is no ATIS up, the METAR. For speeds/altitudes, most flight computers add these values automatically based on SID/STAR, however you do want to verify what the flight computer has input with the chart! If you see hard limits as on the FROGZ1 arrival into KMIA (https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2112/00257FROGZ.PDF), you should expect those altitudes will apply, though ATC will still need to clear you for descent etc. In an arrival such as the BLUFI4 arrival into KMIA (https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2112/00744BLUFI.PDF), you'll see that the chart says to "Expect 7000". When the word expect is included, just understand that that altitude is ATC assigned vs on the procedure. In the first example, ATC will likely tell you to "Descend via the XX arrival", which means to follow the vertical and speed restrictions listed on the chart. In the second example, ATC cannot issue a "descend via" clearance. Also, feel free to reference network events at https://my.vatsim.net/events. Occasionally "First Wings" events are held which are geared towards newer members. 1 NickVice President - SupervisorsVATSIM Board of Governors Contact the Supervisor Team | Could you be a Supervisor? Unless otherwise stated, opinions are my own and not representative of the official opinion of the VATSIM Board of Governors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Christie Posted December 18, 2021 at 05:21 AM Posted December 18, 2021 at 05:21 AM There is heaps of information in my.vatsim.net under the learning centre. Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace Nicmane Posted December 18, 2021 at 07:45 AM Posted December 18, 2021 at 07:45 AM Here's a newbie event: https://forums.vatsim.net/topic/32405-vatsim-newbie-event-atlanta-overload-22-jan-2200z-0300z/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Huhn Posted December 19, 2021 at 12:56 AM Author Posted December 19, 2021 at 12:56 AM Thanks to everyone for your responses, I am going to review in depth the information you all have shared and hopefully my schedule allows for the newbie event listed above. Thanks again for the help,and hope to gain some confidence soon to go live on ATC.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted December 19, 2021 at 08:04 PM Posted December 19, 2021 at 08:04 PM 19 hours ago, John Huhn said: Thanks to everyone for your responses, I am going to review in depth the information you all have shared and hopefully my schedule allows for the newbie event listed above. Thanks again for the help,and hope to gain some confidence soon to go live on ATC.!! Above all, don't get embarrassed or discouraged if you mess something up and draw the ire of a controller. Controllers are not supposed to be disrespectful if you mess up, but if you surprise them by accidentally deviating from a procedure and mess up their sequence, they're only human. Apologize, ask for a vector and altitude so you can get back on track and/or out of the way of whomever the conflict was with, shake it off, take notes on what procedure you were flying and what you did, and research it afterward to figure out where you messed up so you can hopefully avoid the same error on the next flight. We on VATSIM don't often have the benefit of hundreds of hours of IFR classroom and practical training like real-world pilots, so some learning is bound to be by trial-and-error. 1 Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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