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The SAG is coming to down under - Australian ATC: Scramble!


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Andre Koch 852831
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Next leg will be to Auckland NZAA, so we will be guests of the Australian airspace for quite a bit of time. By the way, I just noticed you already found the way to our forums, so I guess you already saw the pics. I will still post them in the screenshots section of this forum for the benefit of everyone else however.

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Andre Koch

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Andre Koch 852831
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You probably already noticed, but the pics are up now: http://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?t=2192

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Mark Ford 817283
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Next leg will be to Auckland NZAA, so we will be guests of the Australian airspace

 

Guests of NZ Airspace unless they moved Auckland but granted you have to leave Australian airspace to get to NZ

 

I will make sure the locals are out to welcome you

Mark

 

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Andre Koch 852831
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Hehe Mark.... of course I meant we will be in Australian airspace for the most part of the trip before we enter the NZ airspace.

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Norman Blackburn
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Its safe to say you will be in the Oceania (VATPAC) region half way to PHNL so make sure those position reports are up to scratch

Norman

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Andre Koch 852831
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Uh oh... I see a lot of practice hours coming up during the weekly SAG pilots training....

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Michael Krause 810881
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Hi folks!

 

Now it's fix the SAG pilots will fly from Perth, along the Southern coast of Australia and over the Tasman Sea to Auckland on Saturday, the 18th of June!

Departure time at Perth will be 0600z (1400 lcl) and we will arrive at Auckland around 1200z (0000 lcl). There are three routes to choose so we will create a sail of routes over the Tasman Sea on our way to "the city of sails" (major cities just for orientation - no landings there):

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Route 1 (North); BROOK2.HALIT Y19 AD H31 CULIN Y59 SY L521 LUNBI.HAB1BW

Route 2 (Middle): BROOK2.TAMOD Y53 WENDY V279 ML N759 PEBLU.HAB1BW

Route 3 (South): BROOK2.TAMOD L513 VELMO.HAB1BW

 

We expect again around 15-20 pilots to join the flight so we'd be really happy to get ATC on our trip!!

 

Since we also want the x-planers to join in we need some GND-sector-file-data (just the normal format for ASRC) for Perth to create a fitting x-plane scenery for Perth (there is already one for Auckland).

Perth in X-Plane:

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Auckland in X-Plane:

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Looking forward to it and thanks in advance!!

Greets

Micha

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Norman Blackburn
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Micha,

 

I have linked this into the VATPAC forum. I think the timings clash with a flight I am already planning on doing from OMDB - YMML.

 

Hopefully though the region will pull out all the stops for you guys.

 

Sectorfiles are available at www.vatpac.org - left menu Airspace | Sector Files | Australia.

Norman

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Andy Dyson 847686
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Hi Micha,

 

I am sure we can organise some ATC out of Perth for you guys!

 

In regard to the planned routes:

 

Route 1 (North); BROOK2.HALIT Y19 AD H31 CULIN Y59 SY L521 LUNBI.HAB1BW

Route 2 (Middle): BROOK2.TAMOD Y53 WENDY V279 ML N759 PEBLU.HAB1BW

Route 3 (South): BROOK2.TAMOD L513 VELMO.HAB1BW

 

The BROOK2 departure is for Runway 21 only. If Runway 03 is active, it will be the PEPPA3 departure. May I suggest that the guys file as follows?

 

PH Y19 AD H31...(rest of above route)

PH Y53 WENDY V279...

PH L513 VELMO....

 

ATC will then advise the appropriate SID, but you could expect the BROOK2 (HALIT or TAMOD transition) for Runway 21 and the PEPPA3 (same transitions) for Runway 03.

 

The procedures are available here in case you don't have the link:

 

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/publications/current/dap/AeroProcChartsTOC.htm

 

I hope to see you next Saturday

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

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Andre Koch 852831
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Hi Andy,

 

thanks for the great information. Unfortunately your link wouldn´t work for me, but I already have the full set of charts for YPPH anyway...

 

Edit: Disregard, it just did work... Guess I´ll be off now to practice some departures out of Perth.

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Andre Koch

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Michael Krause 810881
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@Norman and Andy:

Thanks a lot! I've changed the routes in our German forum already!

 

Any chance to get a link to a YPPH-Ground-Sectorfile? Would be really great if our X-Plane colleagues could join us! (They just need the geo-infomation of the runways and taxiways and from that they can build a fitting scenery.

 

Greets!

Micha

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Andy Dyson 847686
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Hi Micha,

 

The link to the Australian sector files is:

 

http://www.vatpac.org/sectors/index.html

 

The one you will be needing is YMMM_0501.ZIP (5.2MB).

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

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Michael Krause 810881
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Forgot to tell ya that the link there doesn't work: "Not found"

 

Greets

Micha

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Ben Ippolito 811438
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Michael,

 

If that doesn't work then try the main site of www.vatpac.org

 

Then using the left menu select Airspace>Sector Files>Australia

 

This will take you to the same page, then you need the YMMM file as Andy said.

 

If that still doesn't work then I'll post it to the VATPAC BB for you to download, as I can't add attachments here.

 

Also I suggest that all pilots using SB3 add the Oceania SMS set, as it will add a lot of liveries that are common in our region.

 

This can be found at www.comp[Mod - Happy Thoughts]-virtual.org/sms/sms.html it is a simple one click executable that will do all the work for you!

 

Looking forward to seeing you down under!

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Michael Krause 810881
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lol - noo not Andy's link is broken but the link on the vatpac site itself. All others work (Brisbane etc.), just the YMMM link is broken:

The requested URL /sectors/ymmm_0501.zip was not found on this server.

 

EDIT:

Didn't have the time before but it's just a typpo in the URL of the link: Should be YMMM_0501.zip instead of ymmm_0501.zip - Would be nice if someone would tell the webmaster of vatpac.

 

Greets

Micha

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Terrence Scanlan
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The timing of this leg to NZAA is perfect for me and I will be online as ATC for most of the time. Good luck with the flights fellas.

Scanno (AKA Black Dog)

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Andy Dyson 847686
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Didn't have the time before but it's just a typpo in the URL of the link: Should be YMMM_0501.zip instead of ymmm_0501.zip - Would be nice if someone would tell the webmaster of vatpac.

 

The joys of changing from a Windows server to a *nix server! It's a sensitive case lol.

 

Webmaster has been notified.

 

See you next Saturday!

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

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Michael Krause 810881
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Thanks Andy!

 

A question for Auckland:

Which scenery do you suggest for NZAA? Auckland 2005 + Fix (Savern Reweti et al) or the one by Luke Clark (nzaa_v2.35.zip)?

 

Thanks! Really looking forward to this!!

 

Greets

Micha

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Andre Koch 852831
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Thanks! Really looking forward to this!!

Heck yeah, me too!

 

My MD-11 is being polished for days now by a dozen workers using only the softest cloths. The fuel - of course only selected vintages - is being refilled in open tanks right now so the fuel can breathe, enabling it to unfold its full potential. Every single letter of the routing has already been carefully and affectionately entered into the FMC. Hydraulic and battery fluids are being held at their optimal temperature by specially developed heating pads, and all fuel lines are being checked for perfect flow rates. Handpicked, skilled workers are standing by as we speak, ready to clean the cockpit windows with soft sponges one last time before departure. First preperations to clean every squaremillimeter of the taxi- and runways with toothbrushes are being held right now.

 

In other words: I´m ready and can´t wait. Soooooo looking forward to this one!

Cheers,

Andre Koch

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Norman Blackburn
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GAL2105: Request clearance to Auckland.

PH_DEL: No

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Andre Koch 852831
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Whoa Norman... some things you just don´t joke about....

 

But seriously: How in the world do you still remember my callsign? Our last leg has been weeks ago, you surely didn´t memorize it till now? And if yes, why? Did I stand out so much (in a negative way of course)?

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Andre Koch

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Norman Blackburn
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Andre,

 

You and your callsign are not alone. I just have this ability to remember the little details.

Norman

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Andre Koch 852831
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Well, I guess I better start to get my act together then and start behaving...

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Robert Grant
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Andre et al

 

I know this is a bit late but FYI

 

Here is where the burnt flat land of OZ is a wee bit out of step with the rest of the world

 

We dont plan SIDs and STARs in our fligth plans in this country because the software we use in TAAATS doesnt currently support that.

 

There is a move underway to change this but it might be a year or two in coming.

 

Stay tuned folks

 

Regards

Rob

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Terrence Scanlan
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What a great turn out from the SAG group on the YPPH to NZAA sector, a continual "string of pearls" all the way across the continent and out over the pond to New Zealand.

 

Quite a few local pilots joined in to add some traffic as well and the group had continual ATC from start to finish.

 

Obviously the SAG group will fly out from NZAA some time in the near future and we will arrange ATC coverage for them once again so if you guys can give some notice we will be there for you.

Terry Scanlan

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