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Jewon Lee 909227
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Jewon Lee 909227
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Mr. Yamane,

 

That is great sir. It's good to hear. But try to contact me via MSN messenger if you can. The address is [email protected]

 

 

Mr Ming Lee and Yamane,

 

Also please provide me with preferred routes. At least a brief one.

 

 

Event page should be up by next week.

 

We should contact VATSIM admin group also for VATSIM.net front page advertisement.

 

 

TO VATJPN, VATKOR, and VATROC,

 

 

EXPECTED EVENT TIME WILL BE AUGUST 6TH, 2005 (SATURDAY) 1200 ZULU - 1700 ZULU

 

That will be 9 PM - 2 AM LOCAL for KOREA and JAPAN

 

8 PM - 1 AM LOCAL for ROC and HKG

 

Please Understand there is still a possibility of event date and time change due to the slow progress.

 

 

Regards,

Jewon Lee

CFI/II/MEI/AGI/IGI

 

Incheon vACC

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Ming Lee 811204
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Since M750 and A1 is parallel until connecting together, we treat them as single airway.

If Jewon still want us to use single airway, the best way we can do is suspend RVSM operation, then everything will be pure and simple.

 

My suggest routes and Altitudes

(SID and STAR for Taipei only)

 

TAIPEI FIR TRANSIT

 

VHHH.M750..RJTT(FL290 330 370 410)

VHHH.M750.PILOX.APU.B576.RKSI(FL290 330 370 410, and FL270 OR LOWER will be available after APU)

VHHH.A1.RJTT(FL270 or below until BULAN)

VHHH.A1.APU.B576.RKSI(FL270 or below until APU, FL290 330 370 410 after APU)

RJTT. A1.BULAN.A1.VHHH(FL280 310 350 390 before BULAN, RVSM after BULAN, ALT same as SW bound A1)

RKSI. B576. SALMI. APU. A1. VHHH(FL280. 310 .350 .390 before SALMI, RVSM after SALMI, ALT same as SW bound A1)

 

Depart from RCTP

RCTP.SUIM.A1.VHHH (FL260 280 310 320 350 360 390 400)

RCTP.FB1/AP4.B576.RKSI(FL270 290 330 370 410)

RCTP.FB1/AP4.G587.PABSO.MOLKA.M750.RJTT(FL270 290 330 370 410)

RCTP.FB1/AP4.KIKIT TRANSITION.A1.RJTT(FL270 or below until BULAN)

 

 

Arrival to RCTP:

VHHH.A1.MK1.RCTP (FL270 OR BELOW)

VHHH.M750.TG1 RNAV ARR.RCTP (FL290 300 330 340 370 380 410)

RJTT.A1.AU1A.RCTP(FL280 310 350 390)

RKSI. B576.AU1A.RCTP(FL280 310 350 390)

 

Maybe Jewon can organize those FPL and add SID and STAR for each airport.

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Keisuke Yamane
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My suggest routes...

 

 

To RCTP,VHHH

RJTT/HAYAMA2DEP/YOKOSUKA TRN/XMC/V52/KEC/A1/APU...

 

From VHHH,RCTP

...M750/SOPHY/Y52/SAKAK/W28/XAC/SPENS/RJTT

 

To KOREA

RJTT/ZAMA6DEP/NAGOYA TRN/KCC/V26/JEC/G585/SAPRA...

 

From KOREA

...G585(or G597)/JEC/G597/XAC/SPENS/RJTT

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Jewon Lee 909227
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Thank you very much for prompt answers guys.

 

Mr. Ming Lee and Gary Law,

 

Do any one of you guys know the VATASIA website admin?

 

I am trying to add these routes to "route planning" section in VATASIA website but I am not a computer expert at all. Im pretty bad actually.

 

If we can't reach the webmaster of VATAISA.net, we just have to copy and paste these routes for each airports listed on the evnet page.

 

Event introduction page should be up soon. I just didn't figure out who will make it and how we gonna make it.

 

Any suggestion?

 

 

Regards,

Jewon Lee

CFI/II/MEI/AGI/IGI

 

Incheon vACC

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Gary Law 842041
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Mr. Yamane,Ming Lee and Jewon Lee,

 

I have just received a message from Manila that

Some quilified local ATCs from Manila may provide Manila Approach in the event

So that they will have a limited radar service on the area...

 

Pilot will have another option for their destination or departure airport...

And Manila pilots will be flying in the event too....So there would be more traffic I think....

 

I will provide more information to you in this forum if I have a latest one....

 

I hope that that would be a bigger event this time....And really thanks for all your efforts to cooperate the event...

 

Best Regards,

Gary Law

Controller 3 in Hong Kong FIR

Regards,

 

Gary Law

Hong Kong VACC Chief , VATSEA

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Jewon Lee 909227
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Mr Gary Law,

 

I do not have any opposition about this but honestly, i do not have strong favor on this either.

 

The reason why is our event's strength comes from all three countries providing ATC service without ANY radar service termination. It's continuous.

 

If Manilla comes in, they do not have capability of running whole FIR with center function - meaning there will be radar service termination for awhile.

 

 

VATKOR thinks VATASIA should let Manilla participate in this event but exclude them from offical participating airorts (countries) because:

 

1. Radar service termination between HKG FIR and Manilla FIR will deviate from our event's promise: CONTINOUS ATC service.

 

2. We are not 100% sure about their capabilities in effective air traffic controlling. We do not know if they have acceptable level of personnel aware of basic ABCs in VFR & IFR air traffic control.

 

3. They do not have any official division recognizable either.

 

 

However, I will do my best to provide ncessary information regarding Manilla if some pilots choose to go there. HKG FIR's cooperation and contact from Manilla ATC personnel would also be necessary. I also do not have any hostile intention against Phillipines ATCs. I am just expressing the thought based on the given fact and to make this event successful.

 

 

Best Regards,

Jewon Lee

CFI/II/MEI/AGI/IGI

 

Incheon vACC

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Ming Lee 811204
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I don't agree to let them join us this time.

The major problem is we never have experiences to co-operated with manila.

If we just work together on such a regional event, there will be lots of tasks to run traffic smothly.

 

We'll be happy to hold a local event with manila first, and then step forward for regional event next time.

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Gary Law 842041
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Mr. Jewon Lee and Ming Lee,

 

I fully understand your concern for this...

So I agree that it is not an option for now....

Since we are running out of time...

may be we could hold another next time with them...

 

Mr. Jewon Lee,

Please contact Ka-lok Wong as he is the webmaker of the VATASIA region website...

And you may find his email in the forum...As he answered in this post before...

 

 

Regards,

Gary Law

Controller 3 in Hong Kong FIR

Regards,

 

Gary Law

Hong Kong VACC Chief , VATSEA

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Keisuke Yamane
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This event is not the last.

Next time,

I want that more countries joining our events

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Gary Law 842041
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This event is not the last.

Next time,

I want that more countries joining our events

 

Ya...I agree...

We will have more chance to cooperate with each other...

And more events will come...

This event is only a start....

Regards,

 

Gary Law

Hong Kong VACC Chief , VATSEA

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William Woo 810764
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Hi Everybody,

 

Glad to see there are lots of progress.

 

The message links is getting too long and difficult to catch up.

 

I will start a new message thread.

 

Regards,

William Woo

William Woo

VATSIM - Asia Region Director

http://www.vatasia.net

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