Nate Johns Posted October 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM Posted October 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM Anyone out there happen to have an accurate re-creation color value for old-style ARTS display datablocks? Heck, why not STARS too and/or ACD? I'm sure someone out there has it all figured out by now ~Nate Nate Johns "All things are difficult before they are easy." - Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 26, 2009 at 11:49 PM Posted October 26, 2009 at 11:49 PM i just went off pictures i could find on google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted October 27, 2009 at 08:09 PM Posted October 27, 2009 at 08:09 PM (edited) I've had the opportunity to spend quite a bit of time at the C90 (Chicago) TRACON over the past few years. C90 used ARTSIIIE up until about a year and a half ago when they finally switched to ACD. Here are the color profiles that I created referencing their settings: [:CP:ARTSIII] ColorARTCCBound=32896 ColorAirport=32896 ColorAnchorLines=32896 ColorBackground=0 ColorCenterlines=32896 ColorCoasting=65280 ColorConflict=65280 ColorEmergency=65280 ColorFiltered=32768 ColorFix=32896 ColorHandoff=65280 ColorHighAirway=32896 ColorHighBound=32896 ColorHistoryTrail=16384 ColorLDB=65280 ColorLowAirway=32896 ColorLowBound=32896 ColorNDB=32896 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8421376 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=32768 ColorPrimaryTarget=32768 ColorRangeRings=1381653 ColorRunway=32896 ColorSID=32896 ColorSTAR=32896 ColorSelected=65280 ColorStickyBorder=4210816 ColorStickyText=9868950 ColorTargetSymbol=32768 ColorToolLines=65535 ColorTracked=65280 ColorUntracked=65280 ColorVOR=32896 ColorVectorLine=32768 (See amended post below for ACD profile) Maybe somebody has something more accurate for ARTS, but this was the best I could do at the time. I find that operating ACD in STARS mode on VRC is a bit more accurate than ARTS mode (some differences, however). Regards, AJ Edited October 28, 2009 at 04:42 AM by Guest Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hensley 950569 Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM During my career, I used both ARTSII and ARTSIII. The color of everything on the scope was a "yellowish green". Hard to get it exact with VRC but close. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM Posted October 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM andrew, what file is it that i add that to the vrc config itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Johns Posted October 28, 2009 at 01:22 AM Author Posted October 28, 2009 at 01:22 AM During my career, I used both ARTSII and ARTSIII. The color of everything on the scope was a "yellowish green". Hard to get it exact with VRC but close. Alan Yah, it's just strange how such an amber colored scope in full light really does come across as green. With ARTS FDADs fading in to obsolescence, and either STARS or ACD taking over, it won't be long until this little color battle is over. Thing that really blew my mind was figuring out that en-route DSR datablocks were actually 100% yellow. I think it's just hard to get the VRC font to look right because of the single-pixel width of the characters. ~Nate Nate Johns "All things are difficult before they are easy." - Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted October 28, 2009 at 03:40 AM Posted October 28, 2009 at 03:40 AM Turns out that the color profile I posted for ACD isn't actually the one I had created before... whoever I had resend it to me sent me an old version I had worked on. I suffered a system crash over the summer and lost my original profiles so I had to go back and re-work this one. Referencing pages 17 and 22 from this FAA docomeent, Here's the amendments: [:CP:ACD] ColorARTCCBound=5197647 ColorAirport=3815994 ColorAnchorLines=16777215 ColorBackground=0 ColorCenterlines=3815994 ColorCoasting=16777215 ColorConflict=16777215 ColorEmergency=16777215 ColorFiltered=35584 ColorFix=3815994 ColorHandoff=16777215 ColorHighAirway=1644825 ColorHighBound=6579300 ColorHistoryTrail=13127710 ColorLDB=35584 ColorLowAirway=3815994 ColorLowBound=1644825 ColorNDB=3815994 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8421376 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=16777215 ColorPrimaryTarget=35584 ColorRangeRings=3815994 ColorRunway=3815994 ColorSID=3815994 ColorSTAR=3815994 ColorSelected=16777215 ColorStickyBorder=35584 ColorStickyText=35584 ColorTargetSymbol=16742430 ColorToolLines=16777215 ColorTracked=16777215 ColorUntracked=35584 ColorVOR=3815994 ColorVectorLine=16777215 Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gerrish Posted October 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM Posted October 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM andrew, what file is it that i add that to the vrc config itself? yes Richard Gerrish Developer, STM Applications Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 28, 2009 at 05:17 PM Posted October 28, 2009 at 05:17 PM sweeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Bartosz Posted October 30, 2009 at 06:26 PM Posted October 30, 2009 at 06:26 PM Just for fun, I put in that colour profile.... is it just me or is everything white? New York ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted October 30, 2009 at 09:18 PM Posted October 30, 2009 at 09:18 PM Just for fun, I put in that colour profile.... is it just me or is everything white? They're definitely much lighter than the default profile. It's pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM Here is a Tower Display Workstation (TDW) color profile, compliments of Christopher Rolfe of ZMP: [:CP:TDW] ColorARTCCBound=42495 ColorAirport=42495 ColorAnchorLines=32896 ColorBackground=0 ColorCenterlines=42495 ColorCoasting=255 ColorConflict=255 ColorEmergency=255 ColorFiltered=7566195 ColorFix=42495 ColorHandoff=65535 ColorHighAirway=42495 ColorHighBound=42495 ColorHistoryTrail=39168 ColorLDB=16777215 ColorLowAirway=42495 ColorLowBound=42495 ColorNDB=42495 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8421376 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=16777215 ColorPrimaryTarget=42495 ColorRangeRings=21248 ColorRunway=42495 ColorSID=42495 ColorSTAR=42495 ColorSelected=65535 ColorStickyBorder=4210816 ColorStickyText=9868950 ColorTargetSymbol=39168 ColorToolLines=65535 ColorTracked=16777215 ColorUntracked=16777215 ColorVOR=42495 ColorVectorLine=32768 I believe Chris created this referencing some federal docomeents as well. Anyone have an updated build of STARS? I'd be very interested in obtaining one. Regards, AJ Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM Posted October 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM Anyone have an updated build of STARS? I'd be very interested in obtaining one. What do you mean by a build of STARS? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gerrish Posted October 31, 2009 at 12:45 AM Posted October 31, 2009 at 12:45 AM i think he's thinking color profile of an updated stars unit Richard Gerrish Developer, STM Applications Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted October 31, 2009 at 06:37 AM Posted October 31, 2009 at 06:37 AM I'm sorry, yes, a current "color profile" of STARS (aka build). I'm sure it's been revised and I'd be curious to know what the most current version is and what is looks like. -AJ Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted October 31, 2009 at 08:54 PM Posted October 31, 2009 at 08:54 PM AJ, What exactly are TDWs? Is this the equivalent of a D-BRITE for STARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted November 1, 2009 at 12:56 AM Posted November 1, 2009 at 12:56 AM Yeah, basically that is correct from what I can tell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_display_system Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted November 1, 2009 at 03:11 AM Posted November 1, 2009 at 03:11 AM Yeah, basically that is correct from what I can tell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_display_system Haha yeah I looked at that same article. Thanks for posting those profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Lewis Posted November 5, 2009 at 07:20 PM Posted November 5, 2009 at 07:20 PM During my career, I used both ARTSII and ARTSIII. The color of everything on the scope was a "yellowish green". Hard to get it exact with VRC but close. Alan And the Dayton controllers are still looking at the same thing today. That sure is one big computer sitting on the other side of that wall. The above pertains to United States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted November 6, 2009 at 03:51 AM Posted November 6, 2009 at 03:51 AM During my career, I used both ARTSII and ARTSIII. The color of everything on the scope was a "yellowish green". Hard to get it exact with VRC but close. Alan And the Dayton controllers are still looking at the same thing today. That sure is one big computer sitting on the other side of that wall. Flint is, too. The sweep is still a-sweepin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Wolcott 814793 Posted February 6, 2010 at 05:57 AM Posted February 6, 2010 at 05:57 AM This is my color profile I use for STARS and ARTS-IIIE (ACD) I used the STARS real world default color profile at 30% brightness. [:CP:STARS ACD] ColorARTCCBound=3158064 ColorAirport=3158064 ColorAnchorLines=17920 ColorBackground=0 ColorCenterlines=3158064 ColorCoasting=127 ColorConflict=127 ColorEmergency=127 ColorFiltered=10240 ColorFix=3158064 ColorHandoff=32639 ColorHighAirway=3158064 ColorHighBound=3158064 ColorHistoryTrail=802089 ColorLDB=39168 ColorLowAirway=3158064 ColorLowBound=3158064 ColorNDB=3158064 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8421376 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=9211020 ColorPrimaryTarget=39168 ColorRangeRings=3158064 ColorRunway=3158064 ColorSID=3158064 ColorSTAR=3158064 ColorSelected=9211020 ColorStickyBorder=9211020 ColorStickyText=9211020 ColorTargetSymbol=10045458 ColorToolLines=17920 ColorTracked=9211020 ColorUntracked=39168 ColorVOR=3158064 ColorVectorLine=17920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Gallagher 1066073 Posted May 4, 2010 at 02:29 PM Posted May 4, 2010 at 02:29 PM Not to dig up this thread, but I've heard of some STARS R18 color profiles floating around... does anyone have it? Also, does anyone had an updated D-BRITE, or ARTS IIE? Thanks! EDIT: Added more content Kyle Gallagher, C1 ZOB Controller - CLE/PIT/D21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhruv Kalra Posted May 7, 2010 at 09:58 AM Posted May 7, 2010 at 09:58 AM Here's my ARTS FDAD color profile. Works for ARTS-II/IIIA facilities. [:CP:ARTS FDAD] ColorARTCCBound=1259820 ColorAirport=1259820 ColorAnchorLines=1474139 ColorBackground=258 ColorCenterlines=1259820 ColorCoasting=2883512 ColorConflict=2883512 ColorEmergency=2883512 ColorFiltered=1658171 ColorFix=1259820 ColorHandoff=2883512 ColorHighAirway=1259820 ColorHighBound=1259820 ColorHistoryTrail=1658171 ColorLDB=1474139 ColorLowAirway=1259820 ColorLowBound=1259820 ColorNDB=1259820 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8404992 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=49026 ColorPrimaryTarget=16424 ColorRangeRings=530450 ColorRunway=1259820 ColorSID=1790016 ColorSTAR=413501 ColorSelected=65452 ColorStickyBorder=4210816 ColorStickyText=9868950 ColorTargetSymbol=8454095 ColorToolLines=1474139 ColorTracked=61600 ColorUntracked=61600 ColorVOR=1259820 ColorVectorLine=61600 Picture of it in action at A90 (Boston Consolidated TRACON). They're a STARS facility IRL, but this was just to test it: Here's my DBRITE profile: [:CP:DBRITE] ColorARTCCBound=32768 ColorAirport=32768 ColorAnchorLines=32896 ColorBackground=5120 ColorCenterlines=32768 ColorCoasting=4259648 ColorConflict=4259648 ColorEmergency=4259648 ColorFiltered=65280 ColorFix=40960 ColorHandoff=4259648 ColorHighAirway=32768 ColorHighBound=32768 ColorHistoryTrail=40960 ColorLDB=65280 ColorLowAirway=32768 ColorLowBound=32768 ColorNDB=32768 ColorOceanicTracksEast=8404992 ColorOceanicTracksWest=8421376 ColorPositionSymbol=65280 ColorPrimaryTarget=32768 ColorRangeRings=10240 ColorRunway=32768 ColorSID=32768 ColorSTAR=32768 ColorSelected=4259648 ColorStickyBorder=4210816 ColorStickyText=9868950 ColorTargetSymbol=65280 ColorToolLines=65280 ColorTracked=65280 ColorUntracked=65280 ColorVOR=32768 ColorVectorLine=65280 Here it is in action at KMSP (Minneapolis is a RACD in real life now that M98 has gone to CommonARTS ACDs, but again, testing): Dhruv Kalra VATUSA ZMP ATM | Instructor | VATSIM Network Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romano Lara Posted May 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM Posted May 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM Wow! Those CP's looks incredibly nice, Dhruv. The DBRITE cp looks tremendously great. By any chance anyone knows what Color Profile and radar mode they use at Honolulu TRACON? Usually it's just my preference I use to select a color profile to use. Something that is easy in the eyes for better situational awareness. But sometimes I wonder what does my real-world counterpart use. Thanks. Romano LaravACC Philippines, Manager - Training & Standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Gallagher 1066073 Posted May 7, 2010 at 02:42 PM Posted May 7, 2010 at 02:42 PM Very cool, Dhruv. I have heard it is now STARS R19...but I found a STARS profile that seems real...not sure how realistic it is. Also, during this cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] period, I found the color profiles on the ZMP website. When I get home, I'll have to check them out, and share my STARS and ARTS IIIE/ACD Profiles. Kyle Gallagher, C1 ZOB Controller - CLE/PIT/D21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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