Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted December 29, 2009 at 07:31 PM Posted December 29, 2009 at 07:31 PM so its ok to leave some folks out as long as others get to use it? serious? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=35019 see the above link, see if that would play into the inclusion idea. theres really no other way to put it, until theres a speech to text feature added to the pilot clients, a voice only frequency will not work for the reasons that have been pointed out many times already. you can however use voice unicom now if you use FSINN, however do make sure to repeat on text, otherwise, not everyone around you may receive it. and remember its not only deaf members, theres also users who dont want to use voice comms during theyre flight for whatever reason they have. theres also software changes that would be needed, etc.. see all the previous posts for all the details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Ramsey 810181 Posted December 29, 2009 at 09:10 PM Posted December 29, 2009 at 09:10 PM but that is a really big concession by Vatsim as a whole for a small amount of people, ..... Yes, you can say VATSIM is like that and we're proud of that reputation. We had text long before we had voice and not everyone has voice capability but our systems were built during the text only days so it is the most widely used comm method. Since that is the case, we say yes, you can use voice unicom, but don't forget to also do it in txt. I'd say the bigger concession is people don't get kicked for their inappropriate use of UNICOM, like calling inbound at FL250 on the HEADUPMY.BUT STAR that all the non IFR pilots (those actually using UNICOM) have no idea where he/she is and if you are at FL250 I really don't care where you are when I am in the pattern at 1000 ft AGL, so you have now cluttered my freq with unactionable information. Kyle Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Franklin Posted December 30, 2009 at 07:48 PM Posted December 30, 2009 at 07:48 PM Ernesto, yea my question was serious. You didn't answer it and the link you supplied had nothing to do with it. I never suggested leaving any "folks" out. I simply asked a question becuase of a pretty obvious strange situation. What other online game can say that they made any type of changes for a small minority of people. I'm not suggesting to leave any folks out. Mr. Ramsey, thank you for the explanation. What you explain sounds like it makes more sense. If there are that many people still using text, I could see why you wouldn't want to change things. Like I said in my previous post, I'm new and just didn't understand where something like ATC, where voice is a main part of it, would be using text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted December 30, 2009 at 08:06 PM Posted December 30, 2009 at 08:06 PM try reading it again and see if that would play in with the inclusion concept what answer is it you are looking for? the answer so far is the same answer thats been given in this topic and time and time before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Franklin Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:02 AM Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:02 AM Ernesto, I'm not here to argue with you. I asked a pretty straight forward question. Is there a large amount of deaf pilots on here? I did read the article you posted the link to and have read your posts also. I didn't see an answer in either. It's ok, you don't have to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:42 AM Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:42 AM (edited) i know of several not arguing bill, if thats what your picking up, your reading more into the post then needed, remember text shows no emotion. the point is, it doesnt matter how many there are. what your original post was getting at, from what i got, is that it would be ok to exclude even a small few, which obviously the network feels differently like has been mentioned already, its not only that issue alone Edited December 31, 2009 at 04:18 AM by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Samson 1070087 Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:48 AM Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:48 AM But what would be nice is a TTS feature that asks you to confirm your input, although that would be a completely new client, alot of modifications to the server source, etc. I'm neutral on this issue, but a TTS program would not require any server mod, with the source code of Squawkbox, it wouldn't be hard at all to build a plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:53 AM Posted December 31, 2009 at 03:53 AM i couldve swarn ive read david or someone else mention that was in the works, altho probably before the SB dev's stopped workin on it. that would definitely be a good thing to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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