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Navigraph may construe the use of their data in your program as the data being distributed to multiple users without appropriate license, and thus deny you its use.

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I see that. I'm not sure what the best option is. How are people creating sector files now?

 

Unfortunately, the "hard" way - looking at instrument approach procedures, SIDs, STARs, etc. as that information is disseminated by the FAA/governing authorities and making changes by hand - at least in my facility!

 

Anyone with a p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing knowledge of perl or even basic search pattern scripting could easily convert Navigraph's data; most of the data files are unencrypted plain text. That, unfortunately, is not the hurdle!

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I see that. I'm not sure what the best option is. How are people creating sector files now?

 

Unfortunately, the "hard" way - looking at instrument approach procedures, SIDs, STARs, etc. as that information is disseminated by the FAA/governing authorities and making changes by hand - at least in my facility!

 

Anyone with a p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing knowledge of perl or even basic search pattern scripting could easily convert Navigraph's data; most of the data files are unencrypted plain text. That, unfortunately, is not the hurdle!

Very true. I of course could not package something like that with my program. In any case, I think having a GUI to edit some elements will be beneficial.

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I would directly ask Navigraph what they would suggest. At least to inform them that you are to use the FSNavigator or whatsoever format of their updates.

I am sure an AIRAC-import function is great deal to the sector file creators. Although not in charge with sector file creating, I highly appreciate your work!

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I'm thinking the best way to have the most recent data is to do an AIRAC import, but I'm not sure of the best way to go about this. Should I contact Navigraph to determine if they want to add another format for my application, or should I go off of one that already exists?

 

The same source I referred you to for airport layouts also includes a regularly-updated set of navaids and waypoints, so that would essentially be the AIRAC you're looking for. There's one file for fixes (RNAV and non-RNAV) and one file for everything else.

 

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X-Plane's airport and navdata, unfortunately, rely on user submitted updates and the navigational data is often incomplete. Thus I would caution against relying on it to be accurate enough for ATC use.

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Andrew,

Kyprianos mentioned GroundMaker (by Corey Wirun) earlier in this thread, which used to work fine with FS9 and WinXP.

If anyone knows of an updated version, this could at least be a stepping stone for many of us who have "upgraded" to Win7 or Vista, using FSX.

I have been trying lately to create sector ground-layouts with the old v1.1 and my present OS and MSFS, but with no luck The rationale for trying this with FSX is merely the fact that the default sceneries are more accurate in FSX than in FS9 (at least as far as I can tell).

So, if you manage to fill the gap, I am sure you will have a very happy flightsim community to applaude you

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Hows it going? There's another graphic sector file editor program out there but the guy stopped development of it and ground maker doesn't work too well on vista/FSX

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Hows it going? There's another graphic sector file editor program out there but the guy stopped development of it and ground maker doesn't work too well on vista/FSX

 

I have a start that displays some sector data in C++ and the Qt framework for cross platform, but I think I'm going to switch back to VB. Raffael Walther recently released his sector file editor tool under the GPL license so this allows me to expand his work.

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Our sectors files were redrawn by me using Google Earth. The KML produced by it is then post-processed by a small program to convert it into .SCT format

 

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Our sectors files were redrawn by me using Google Earth. The KML produced by it is then post-processed by a small program to convert it into .SCT format

 

Miguel

 

What is this post program? I have been looking to use GE.

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It was developed by me using a language that many freak out with: Tcl

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Well, I'm still looking for any ideas out there. Where do most people get their information from to create a sector file? If you were to just draw everything from hand, that would be too much work.

once you get efficient at drawing stuff google earth, it really takes no time at all. I knocked out KFFZ, which has tons of buildings any taxiways out in a little under 4 hours on google earth. If you would like send me a pm and ill send you the kml file and how i organized it.

 

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use the above program Andrew Wolcott posted, and notepad++. Organize the path's and taxiways in google earth by using something like [1] for the names and use notepad++ replace fuction and replace [1] with the color. that conversion tool spits out the path name in the color field, so if you use the replace and do something that makes it different from the coordinates format, it should take all of 2 mins to spit out a groundmap.

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Ok... I have finally converted my tool to web format to enable people to upload the sector file and have it converted online.

 

Here is the link for the tool:

http://fs.mine.nu/euroscope/design/

 

There is a small tutorial which explains the requirements so that things get displayed properly. If you have any doubts let me know. Please note this is very "beta", since I have tested it quickly with a few KMZ files.

 

Miguel

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