Humberto Silva 948167 Posted January 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM Posted January 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM Hello I made an application to work with ProSim737 (an avionics suite simulating the Boeing 737). It has support for HOPPIE to exchange telex and performance messages sent from TOPCAT. You can also use it to send text messages to the VATSIM software client window. I just started the work on CPDLC(with hoppie). An uplink message looks like this: It needs some more work, but the interface is already functional and I can exchange messages with hoppie already. The second part of this video shows a message sent from TOPCAT being received in my CDU. (the first part is a direct integration with TOPCAT) The message is sent using Hoppie. This one shows a loadsheet sent from TOPCAT being received in my CDU for printing. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Christie Posted January 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM Posted January 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM CPDLC will be good in the prosim UTILS for worldflight next year, we used it a bit during worldflight 2014, but found a few problems, and some of our crew don't care much for the toys in the CDU, the owner of the sim thinks I bring the new pages with me every time I show up at the sim! The main problem was, and I think I brought this up on the prosim forums, is with ACARS you cant find out who the message came from, and there is a line limit, it seems like only the first 1 and a bit lines of text get sent. Regarding the Aerosoft CPDLC I asked on their forums, some beta tester told me that they were waiting on SWIFT pilot client to be developed and were going to make a system that works with that. Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberto Silva 948167 Posted January 21, 2015 at 01:55 PM Posted January 21, 2015 at 01:55 PM The main problem was, and I think I brought this up on the prosim forums, is with ACARS you cant find out who the message came from, and there is a line limit, it seems like only the first 1 and a bit lines of text get sent. Hello Currently there is no limit on the message size in ProSim or ProSimUtils. About the sender, this is something that will be available in ProSimUtils 1.5. I'm writing a completely new messaging module. If you have any suggestion to improve ProSimUtils even more, just PM me. [EDIT] I made a video of a couple of CPDLC messages being exchange: [/EDIT] Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberto Silva 948167 Posted February 25, 2015 at 12:07 AM Posted February 25, 2015 at 12:07 AM One more video. This time communicating with EuroScope via hoppie. regards Humberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted February 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM Posted February 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM Cool stuff!! Keep going and we are looking for more updates Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Ferran Posted March 28, 2015 at 06:08 PM Posted March 28, 2015 at 06:08 PM Hi, A little video to show what's coming up in the next version of my ground plugin: It's basicly an integrated datalink clearance system, it'll work wether you use the ground view or not, and requires little configuration. Sorry for the lack of annotation or commentary, if you have any questions don't hesitate. vSMR Plugin for EuroScope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted March 28, 2015 at 10:07 PM Posted March 28, 2015 at 10:07 PM Nice, can it be automated to provide automatic clearances? Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Ferran Posted March 28, 2015 at 10:57 PM Posted March 28, 2015 at 10:57 PM Nice, can it be automated to provide automatic clearances? Technically it could, but I don't think it is a good idea to have clearances sent automaticly without you knowing. The process is already fairly automated, the only thing you have to do is click "confirm" then "send" vSMR Plugin for EuroScope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted March 28, 2015 at 11:03 PM Posted March 28, 2015 at 11:03 PM Nice, can it be automated to provide automatic clearances? Technically it could, but I don't think it is a good idea to have clearances sent automaticly without you knowing. The process is already fairly automated, the only thing you have to do is click "confirm" then "send" It's mainly that that's how it works for real, at least where I work. Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Ferran Posted March 28, 2015 at 11:19 PM Posted March 28, 2015 at 11:19 PM It's mainly that that's how it works for real, at least where I work. Interesting! Where do you work? If thats the case, I guess you have some kind of DMAN that takes care of preparing clean clearances, thing that we do not have yet on vatsim. vSMR Plugin for EuroScope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted March 29, 2015 at 12:02 AM Posted March 29, 2015 at 12:02 AM It's mainly that that's how it works for real, at least where I work. Interesting! Where do you work? If thats the case, I guess you have some kind of DMAN that takes care of preparing clean clearances, thing that we do not have yet on vatsim. EGCC, the same system is in use at several big UK airports (EGLL, EGKK, EGSS to name a few). No we have no DMAN, but our PDC is connected to our EFPS (Electronic Flight Progress Strips). When it's in automatic mode it will check the pilots entered aircraft type and stand against the EFPS system. If it's correct it will base the clearance on the active dep runway in EFPS and pick a correct SID based on the flightplan, the squawk is already there. If the pilots enters incorrect data the system will alert us and we have to force it through manually. We can also set it to semi-atuomatic mode when we manually have to force all the clearances (similar to your video). It's used for runway change periods and when we have non-standard departures in use for some reason. But most of the time (maybe 90% roughly) it's in automatic and we don't have to touch it as long as the pilots don't enter anything incorrect or any text in the message. Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Mathias Moberg Posted March 31, 2015 at 08:57 PM Posted March 31, 2015 at 08:57 PM Hi, A little video to show what's coming up in the next version of my ground plugin: That's really, really cool! Considering that Hoppies network already works, it would be really cool if this plugin became popular. The only think we need then, is for addon makers, to implement the pilotside client directly into the aircraft, so we don't need a separate window for that too, but considering that the hoppie network is fairly open, it shouldn't be too hard, should it? Karl Mathias Moberg (KM) - C3/I1https://nyartcc.org ZNY Air Traffic Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Ferran Posted April 1, 2015 at 10:41 AM Posted April 1, 2015 at 10:41 AM That's really, really cool! Considering that Hoppies network already works, it would be really cool if this plugin became popular. The only think we need then, is for addon makers, to implement the pilotside client directly into the aircraft, so we don't need a separate window for that too, but considering that the hoppie network is fairly open, it shouldn't be too hard, should it? I don't know why it hasn't been done yet, yesit is pretty simple to implement, even though the docomeentation is a little light, you can figure it out. The only thing that annoyed me is the formating used by Hoppie, it's not anything standard like JSON or XML, but just text that you have to p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] by yourself. vSMR Plugin for EuroScope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted June 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM Posted June 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM There is a new version available for the ACARS/CPDLC Plugin for Euroscope, version 1.1.1 . You can find it through this link: http://download.fir-berlin.de/cpdlc/CPDLCApp_1110.zip Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted November 9, 2016 at 02:39 PM Posted November 9, 2016 at 02:39 PM I have recently started to use CPDLC (Hoppie Acars) to comunicate position reports during oceanic flights. I manage to establish the link with ATC e to submit my position report, but, in the position report page I can only fill in information relevant to reported fix and expected one (including ETA) but I cannot fill in any info about Flight Level and Ground Speed ...the relevant LSK in the MCDU are simply not accessible. Is it my set up, a bug, or am I missing something ? Regards Ezio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted November 10, 2016 at 01:47 PM Posted November 10, 2016 at 01:47 PM Hi Ezio, great to see that you found interest in CPDLC! Which program are you using exactly, the CPDLC Airborne Hoppie Client?Have you also started the WFAcars program? It will enable bit that takes care of position reports: http://www.hoppie.nl/acars/prg/acars-msfs/ Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:05 PM Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:05 PM Ciao Andreas, yes..I am using the CPDLC Airborne Hoppie Client ...I have installed the three modules, ACARS MSFS, ACARSAIR , and MCDU, as per the instructions in your ACARS CPDLC Quick Starter (thanks for the excellent manual.. )....once started I have the Broker, the Airborne Station and the MCDU running, ..I can successfully log on to the Hoppie Network and to the available ATC....I can request and receive PDC, but when I am airborne and I want to send a position report I can only input data about fixes (which are duly received by ATC) and I can also exchange text msgs with the logged on ATC station, but I cannot input Flight Level and Ground Speed in the position report page. So my question is if this is normal or if I am doing something wrong. Regards Ezio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:25 PM Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:25 PM Hi Ezio, actually, if you would to use the POS REPORT you will have to keep the "WFAcars" active (step 3.2.3 in the Quick Starter Manual). So, do NOT invert "rem" in the .bat-file for the WFAcars-program. Then you should be doing fine. I will probably change this section so people do not deactivate this program anymore. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:30 PM Posted November 10, 2016 at 03:30 PM Thanks Andreas...I will check and get back to you... Ciao Ezio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted November 10, 2016 at 06:12 PM Posted November 10, 2016 at 06:12 PM If you need help, I can do that via Teamspeak, Teamviewer etc... will be online tonight. Just drop me a line. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Cingolani 953405 Posted November 11, 2016 at 08:27 AM Posted November 11, 2016 at 08:27 AM Hi Andreas, apologise...I just saw now your last message...Yesterday evening I just edited the .bat file to remove the "rem" as per your post below, but I didn't test it online...this week end I might have some time to test it and I will let you know...thanks for your help anyway..very much appreciated. Ciao Ezio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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