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High Gergely,

Following some intial testing we in the UK have noted some issues with the latest beta.

  • UniATIS will no longer operate as this is still using http, no ATIS can be generated using UniATIS now.
  • The Sector File Provider Descriptor has befallen the same fate. New version seems to give an error, if you make the file use https the old versions of ES will no longer work!
    https://prnt.sc/118udtd (new build) https://prnt.sc/118unlk (old build with file using https)
  • The new arrival ground status's do not function.
  • vSMR control bar is now borked. Not sure what has caused this, but I've let Pierre know!

Cheers,

Luke

 

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Thanks for the advice. I wasn't even aware that there was an update / new beta version

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Hello guys!

To addon to this issue, I realise that changing the ground status of the aircraft will cause me to assume the tag automatically.

Not sure if Luke's issue was similar for vSMR, but the font type used for vSMR has changed for me.

Regarding uniATIS, it was due to the developers changing the way that they made web requests; not sure how they did it previously, but now they are using CURL, which has support for https. It would be great if the developers of uniATIS implement https support for their website.

Addon @Luke Brown,

I highly suspect that issue is because the developer did not handle redirect requests using cURL properly.
I've checked, any requests to http://www.vatsim-uk.co.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (http) gets redirected to https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (https) then finally https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (https). Perhaps you can try inputting https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt directly and see if that works for you?

 

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@Mark-Julius Pikat @Luke BrownThank-you so much you both. Let's hope that we will get an update soon

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3 hours ago, Amos Ng said:

Addon @Luke Brown,

I highly suspect that issue is because the developer did not handle redirect requests using cURL properly.
I've checked, any requests to http://www.vatsim-uk.co.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (http) gets redirected to https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (https) then finally https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt (https). Perhaps you can try inputting https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt directly and see if that works for you?

 

Hey Amos,

Can you give me any more detail on what you found here?

A GET request to http://www.vatsim-uk.co.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt returns a 301 pointing you straight to https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt which returns a 200 and serves the file.

As far as I can see, only two requests are made; the second handles both the https and the new domain in one request.

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14 hours ago, Calum Towers said:

Hey Amos,

Can you give me any more detail on what you found here?

A GET request to http://www.vatsim-uk.co.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt returns a 301 pointing you straight to https://www.vatsim.uk/files/sector/esad/VATUK_Euroscope_files.txt which returns a 200 and serves the file.

As far as I can see, only two requests are made; the second handles both the https and the new domain in one request.

Hello Calum!
The first one is a 307 Internal Redirect (HTTP to HTTPS)
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From there its a 301 Permanent Redirect from that URL to vatsim.uk URL.
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And finally, paged is served

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Hope this helps 😄

 

EDIT: Just to be sure, ran the same thing in Burp again. Yep, it looks like it should have been just one redirect.
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3 hours ago, Amos Ng said:

Hello Calum!
The first one is a 307 Internal Redirect (HTTP to HTTPS)
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From there its a 301 Permanent Redirect from that URL to vatsim.uk URL.
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And finally, paged is served

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Hope this helps 😄

 

EDIT: Just to be sure, ran the same thing in Burp again. Yep, it looks like it should have been just one redirect.
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307 is likely your browser forcing HTTPS, that request doesn’t hit our server.

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On 4/10/2021 at 7:46 AM, Amos Ng said:

To addon to this issue, I realise that changing the ground status of the aircraft will cause me to assume the tag automatically.

 

 

Yes, this is a problem as we don't have ground and tower controllers assuming the tag of the aircraft. Not sure if this was intentional or not, but can this be removed?

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I apologies for the number of issues. The download page suggested that it is a less stable version. None to say that I finally packed a version that was between 26 and 27 and not the latest 27. I hope v28 will fix several things.

I added the support for redirecting in the new CURL download. I tested it with UniATIS and with UK sector provider. Both seems to be working.

The auto assume is also optional in v28.

 

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One more issue (at least on my side), ES gives me METARs for all airports defined withing the FIR that is under control. That being said, I get "METAR report" for small VFR airfield in the FIR. Even if you turn off that you are not controlling the airport from the list, it is reactivating itself on the next METAR update.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Filip Markoski said:

One more issue (at least on my side), ES gives me METARs for all airports defined withing the FIR that is under control. That being said, I get "METAR report" for small VFR airfield in the FIR. Even if you turn off that you are not controlling the airport from the list, it is reactivating itself on the next METAR update.

 

 

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Is that from a live session or a playback? Seen this in playbacks before.

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The problem Filip describes happens live with the new beta version. The issue is when you have the "Automatically display METAR of active airports" selected. In all previous versions it would only display if both the airport was active and had a runway selection activated.

This is also stated in the EuroScope manual.

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So right now, its completely ignoring the "if there are runways activated for those airports."

 

I have no idea why this suddenly had to change. You would want to have small airports activated for flightsplans to show up if someone files from those airports, and for Norway we have alot of offshore platforms we provide service from, and hospitals that lies within controlled airspace etc. There is no need for us to get a long list of METAR's from those. I really hope Gergely decide to revert back to the old way for this, I see absolutely no need for this change.

 

This is an example form Norway:

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Going to Version 29 has now seemed to kill the Automated Download Process.  I am getting errors now saying "Neither SCT nor SCT2 file is found after extracting the 7z".

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On 4/14/2021 at 4:01 PM, Vitaliy Balabanets 1209816 said:

Have some issue. 

Got an error if domain name has hyphen

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This problem and the ground traffic assume issue were not solved on the r29 beta.

Aeronautical Greetings

 

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13 hours ago, Sérgio Gomes said:

This problem and the ground traffic assume issue were not solved on the r29 beta.

If I remember correctly isn't it a toggleable option in the new beta?

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Continuing with the topic and issues on the last update (r29). Hope this feedback can help finding the bugs.

- Neither in the arrival list nor in the new ADC, the aircraft which are to arrive or have landed don't appear. At least in a Sweatbox.

- The previous problem might be because when the aircraft is near the destination, an "ARR" status is set and confused with the VOR with this name. Then ES sees only an aircraft which will go to Portugal and then back.

- Taxi in list doesn't fill up with the planes with the ground status TAXIN.

- The advanced ground status pop up is maybe "too advanced" XD. what I mean is that when I set the next status to for example TAXI OUT I cannot get back to PUSH or STUP if I made a mistake. Furthermore, when set to PARK, it cannot be changed to anything more.

- Althought it is already said. When closing the instance of ES, the ground filter altitude is automatically set to 2000ft.

- For those who say the problem of the auto-assume when the STS is changed. As Chriss says, it is toggleable but the tick works strangely. In fact, when I marked it on the general settings, pressed OK button and I open again general settings, it is not saved. (It is another time unmarked).

- In the website is writen the version 29 but when opening Euroscope it says v3.2a(r28).

- I started a sweatbox and the aircraft on the ramp go directly to the runway and take off at a certain time without any instruction

- As a suggestion which came from real controllers from here, VATSIM, it makes no sense at all having two taxi lists. Conflicts must be seen usually in the same bay. I propose to make the taxi in list optional.

 

If I find some more, I'll edit this post. I hope it is helpful. Cheers.

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On 4/16/2021 at 4:30 AM, Mark Walsh said:

Yes, this is a problem as we don't have ground and tower controllers assuming the tag of the aircraft. Not sure if this was intentional or not, but can this be removed?

This might be long found but just for posterity (as I was having the same issue), in the latest Euroscope beta at least there is an option under General Settings, Coordination Options, "Auto assume on ground state set" which looks relevant.

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