Matthew Montgomery 1035148 Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:51 AM Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:51 AM I'm pretty sure I heard this guy check in on freq with IAD_APP when you logged off. His check in alluded to what you were talking about, which was pretty sad. Further evidence that the AF1 callsign will be permanently [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with noob. AF1 shall be permanently [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with noobs because the correct callsign is A1 Matthew Montgomery ZOB ARTCC Staff Mentor [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Heiser 1052801 Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:57 AM Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:57 AM (edited) AF1 shall be permanently [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with noobs because the correct callsign is A1 I believe you may be the noob in this case, Matt. TBL 2-3-8 President and Family Service President Family Air Force AF1 EXEC1F Marine VM1 EXEC1F Navy VV1 EXEC1F Army RR1 EXEC1F Coast Guard C1 EXEC1F Guard G1 EXEC1F Commercial EXEC1 EXEC1F Edited July 27, 2011 at 06:00 AM by Guest AJ Heiser Senior Controller, ZLA ARTCC "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment." ~ Jim Horning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hawton Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:58 AM Posted July 27, 2011 at 05:58 AM I'm pretty sure I heard this guy check in on freq with IAD_APP when you logged off. His check in alluded to what you were talking about, which was pretty sad. Further evidence that the AF1 callsign will be permanently [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with noob. AF1 shall be permanently [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ociated with noobs because the correct callsign is A1 AF1 is used. At least, that's how their strips popped out when AF1 was at my facility and how it appeared on the TDW in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Doubleday Posted July 27, 2011 at 06:20 AM Posted July 27, 2011 at 06:20 AM I have to concur, I've heard from a number of real world sources that AF1 is, in fact, the correct callsign to be used. It has something to do with the fact that Host doesn't recognize aircraft call signs less than 3 characters. Maybe some real world sources can comment on this. I do, however, concur that most people flying AF1 are... Well... Not a welcomed sight or pleasant experience on frequency for the most part. I HAVE seen some of the VUSAF guys actually file it with the aircraft type VC25 (the aircraft code for the type of Boeing 747 model that transports the President) with great flight plans that have been a pleasure to work... That's few and far between, however. Andrew James Doubleday | Twitch Stream: Ground_Point_Niner University of North Dakota | FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) Graduate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James White Posted July 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM Posted July 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM It is AF1. Here is the ATS FP I found a while ago from what looks like a Eurocat screen. Kind Regards, James White 1054550 VATPAC C1 ENR Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhruv Kalra Posted July 27, 2011 at 04:25 PM Posted July 27, 2011 at 04:25 PM Interestingly enough, you'll notice that they file as a B742. In fact, I checked, VC25 is actually not recognized by ICAO Doc 8643. Dhruv Kalra VATUSA ZMP ATM | Instructor | VATSIM Network Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Heiser 1052801 Posted July 27, 2011 at 04:29 PM Posted July 27, 2011 at 04:29 PM Interestingly enough, you'll notice that they file as a B742. In fact, I checked, VC25 is actually not recognized by ICAO Doc 8643. Looks like we're deviating a bit from the OP's intentions for this topic. Let's try and get back on track. AJ Heiser Senior Controller, ZLA ARTCC "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment." ~ Jim Horning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Martin Posted July 29, 2011 at 03:44 AM Posted July 29, 2011 at 03:44 AM There have definitely been some funny things over the years... This first one was not me, but one of my fellow controllers when I first started at ZDC: Pilot: Dee Cee center, American XXX, with you at DCA request clearance. Controller: Aircraft calling, confirm you were calling WASHINGTON Center... Pilot: We don't see him online, switching to UNICOM, good day. The rest are me: Me: SWA1234, reduce speed to 170 knots, then descent and maintain 2000.Pilot: Unable. Me: SWA1234, turn right heading 090, climb and maintain 5000. Cleared direct SWANN, hold NW with 1 minute legs, expect further clearance time 2100 zulu. Pilot: Roger, 170 knots, then down to 2000, SWA1234 Pilot: Sir, we're requesting higher.Me: AAL512, unable for noise abatement. Pilot: Why would noise be a factor if we're climbing higher? Me: AAL512, have you ever heard the noise a 737 makes when it hits a 757? Apparently it's loud and the residents of Northern Virginia don't like it. After a pilot landed long on runway 33L at BWI... Me: SWA620, welcome to Baltimore, make a right there on Airport Loop Blvd, bring that around until you see the ramp for I-195, hop on that and take it around to the airport, they should see you coming and open the gate for you. After that, taxi via P to the gate.Pilot disconnects. JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Bartlett 1106450 Posted July 29, 2011 at 04:46 AM Posted July 29, 2011 at 04:46 AM I have a couple. Working Denver Tower: Me: PAYXXX wind 240@9, RWY 25 clear for take off PAYXXX: Clear for takeoff RWY 25 2 minutes later: PAYXXX: Denver Tower, we are going down Me: Emergency services on the way PAYXXX: Bring lots and I do mean Lots of Body bags Seattle Approach: Me: FFTXXX turn right heading 140 FFTXXX: right one four thousand, FFTXXX Steve Bartlett ZKC_SB C1/Mentor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycliffe Barrett Posted July 29, 2011 at 08:16 AM Posted July 29, 2011 at 08:16 AM On Cardiff Approach I have had a few good ones. Me....123 turn left 210 pilot turn right 030 ME *&%$£**** (in my head) ............. Me ...... p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] your message Pilot... Good Morning Sir I am a PA 28 at 2500, 140kts inbound to you from Kemble with 2 POB, I intend to approach Cardiff from the north and request 4 VFR circuits and then a departure to the south, I have some odd noise from the engine but it is not an emergency, my wife has a cold so I may leave the cockpit for a moment, Me.... (yawn) Pilot.... after my departure to the south I will be vfr to Minehead for some general VFR handling to the south blah bla bl;ah blah Me... Say again sir you was stamped on (tee hee) Wycliffe Barrett: C3 Controller "if god meant for us to fly, he would have given us tickets" Mel Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Redman 1175199 Posted July 29, 2011 at 02:19 PM Posted July 29, 2011 at 02:19 PM Me... Say again sir you was stamped on (tee hee) This and the one about the little fokker made me LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Uytterhoeven 1151895 Posted July 29, 2011 at 02:54 PM Posted July 29, 2011 at 02:54 PM Hahaha xD BeluxvACC Controller ezyJet VA Staff Member | Vatsim Liaison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Majerczuk Posted August 5, 2011 at 06:29 PM Posted August 5, 2011 at 06:29 PM Thats my conversation when I was flighting from Krakow to I think so Stansted Me.: Krakow Tower good evening low as the landing field(Its sound bit diffrent in Polish language) Ryanair three two Alfa Wizki request clearence to our destination London Stansted Tower.:Ryanair three two alfa wizki you are clear to your destination Stansted as field runway 25 in use after departure continule straight ahead as an bullet shoot initialy climb to 4000ft and them we would see what next That one was when I was flighing from Berlin Tengel to Brize Norton some pilot said over the LON_SC_CTR freq Pilot.: London Control thanks for fu%##@^# my whole flight bye bye LON_SC_CTR no reaction Pilot Disconnect That haven't been me I hope it haven't been so boaring :p VATCAN Controller | CZVR Home Controller Formerly VATEUD ATC Department Lead PID/CID 1091056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Sims 1158411 Posted August 7, 2011 at 03:18 AM Author Posted August 7, 2011 at 03:18 AM Thats my conversation when I was flighting from Krakow to I think so Stansted Pilot.: London Control thanks for fu%##@^# my whole flight bye bye LON_SC_CTR no reaction Pilot Disconnect Almost fell out of my seat laughing on that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted August 7, 2011 at 05:39 AM Board of Governors Posted August 7, 2011 at 05:39 AM Pilot: Boston Center, UALxxx, 9000 for 14000. BOS_CTR: United xxx, Boston Center, good evening. Climb and maintain FL320, proceed direct SSOXS. Pilot: Up to 320, but can't go to SSOXS. I'm a Yankees fan. BOS_CTR: United xxx, alright... Prepare to copy holding instructions. Pilot: Direct SSOXS, United xxx Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Majerczuk Posted August 7, 2011 at 07:33 AM Posted August 7, 2011 at 07:33 AM That's my small conversation with pilot which get lost in flight from Glasgow to London Stansted I was on Ground that night Pilot turn on my frequency Pilot.: Stansted Ground goodevening BAW123 with you at FL350 holding over XXX(Don't remember) we are currently over Manchester and ee...... we are completely lost is there any chance that you can direct us towards the airport.... Me.: Goodevening BAW123 Stansted Ground..... hmm...... because there is no London Control online or any other radar in your range the best think what you can do is head towards south where you should flight over the London Heatrow or other bigger airport Pilot.:Roger will head south and will report you when flight over any bigger airport Me.: BAW123 Correct for now switch to UNICOM 122.800 and continue own navigation cya ! Pilot.: 122.80 bye BAW123 50 minutes later Pilot.: Stansted Ground its me again BAW123 hmmm..... I'm flight over a sea still heading towards south my plane show me that I have 20 nautical miles towards LFPG.. do you know what airport is that..? Me.: BAW123 for your own information you are entering the France airspace.. and the LFPG is Charles de Gueal (Don't know how to spell it ) airport please stand by ... I saw that there is an supervisor online on observator I wrote to him that the BAW123 is lost and he should flight to Stansted but he is currently over France can he help me... Supervisor.:Hmm... so BAW123 should flight to Stansted but he is over Paris is that correct..? Me.: Yeap Supervisor.o you have any clue why this happend...? Me.: hmm.... he contact me when he was over Manchester and he told me that he is lost I told him to flight south till he will flight over any bigger airport Supervisor.: hmm..... heh.... today pilots... stand by please.. Pilot Dissconect Supervisor.: He should be alright now Me.: Ehh..... okay... Supervisor.: have a nice night and if you need my help in somethink else just write to me Me.: Roger thanks cya That was like at 2:00Z or 3:00Z a year ago but I'm going to remember that for pretty long time VATCAN Controller | CZVR Home Controller Formerly VATEUD ATC Department Lead PID/CID 1091056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted August 7, 2011 at 02:56 PM Posted August 7, 2011 at 02:56 PM good example of what not to do for both controllers and pilots. in the future, just say you cant help since you are on ground and recommend they ask for help from a supervisor or another pilot or even use the map in their sim. youll just confuse the already lost pilot by telling them to head south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Majerczuk Posted August 7, 2011 at 06:49 PM Posted August 7, 2011 at 06:49 PM good example of what not to do for both controllers and pilots. in the future, just say you cant help since you are on ground and recommend they ask for help from a supervisor or another pilot or even use the map in their sim. youll just confuse the already lost pilot by telling them to head south But we was all time talking on privat and he told me that he will direct towards Stansted with the VORs and Radials so he wouldn't actually have to head south all the time but yeah.. I think you are wright VATCAN Controller | CZVR Home Controller Formerly VATEUD ATC Department Lead PID/CID 1091056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Martin Posted August 8, 2011 at 03:24 AM Posted August 8, 2011 at 03:24 AM good example of what not to do for both controllers and pilots. in the future, just say you cant help since you are on ground and recommend they ask for help from a supervisor or another pilot or even use the map in their sim. youll just confuse the already lost pilot by telling them to head south I think we should try to keep this post on topic and avoid correcting controllers & pilots alike... instead just enjoy the funny situations that are posted. Shouldn't be too hard... JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Majerczuk Posted August 8, 2011 at 06:28 AM Posted August 8, 2011 at 06:28 AM good example of what not to do for both controllers and pilots. in the future, just say you cant help since you are on ground and recommend they ask for help from a supervisor or another pilot or even use the map in their sim. youll just confuse the already lost pilot by telling them to head south I think we should try to keep this post on topic and avoid correcting controllers & pilots alike... instead just enjoy the funny situations that are posted. Shouldn't be too hard... JM No problem for me if this would help the newbies and pretty old controllers like me VATCAN Controller | CZVR Home Controller Formerly VATEUD ATC Department Lead PID/CID 1091056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Wolken 1093046 Posted August 10, 2011 at 07:33 PM Posted August 10, 2011 at 07:33 PM Had an interesting one while working ORD_TWR last night. (I'm leaving the callsign out so as to not ember[Mod - Happy Thoughts] this person) N12345: O'hare Tower, N12345 looking for clearance to Kennedy with information Alpha. ORD_TWR: N12345, O'hare I am unfamiliar with the aircraft type that you listed could you please let me know what kind of plane you are in? N12345: N12345 is a Star Wars X-Wing Fighter Jet* ORD_TWR: (holding back laughter) rgr *He filed his aircraft type as B/HURI/Q (supposedly Star War's technology has advanced FMC navigation?...sweet ) In short, I quickly .walloped the guy (something along the lines of "Luke Skywalker is looking for clearance from Chicago") and had it taken care of. It was a pretty interesting situation the entire way around because this guy was so serious that he wanted to fly in his plane.......I guess to each his own? ZAU S2 Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Baker 1080999 Posted August 11, 2011 at 03:26 PM Posted August 11, 2011 at 03:26 PM Adam Should let him take off, and see if he could qctually fly like a normal plane Hmm, /me thinks he should take the blimp or sr71 out Warning: SR71 will bust 250kts on take off ZAU S-2, Major Certified ZAU S-1 Mentor (Disclaimer: the post above does not necessarily express the opinion or stance of ZAU or ZAUs training program, this view is made by me and me alone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted August 12, 2011 at 03:57 AM Posted August 12, 2011 at 03:57 AM experimental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Lynch 1167842 Posted August 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM Posted August 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM Just like my good old Bird and paper airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Otero Posted August 12, 2011 at 08:31 PM Posted August 12, 2011 at 08:31 PM At least he called you with the ATIS and seemed, based on your transcript, to know what he was doing, but we will never know for sure because you rat him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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