Kenneth Bambach 1008842 Posted September 1, 2016 at 04:54 AM Posted September 1, 2016 at 04:54 AM Oh man, I hope he didn't call CNN after that. "Danger in the skies....Controllers drinking and taking personal phone calls at work" Ken Bambach ZMA ATM VATSIM Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace Nicmane Posted September 1, 2016 at 07:45 AM Posted September 1, 2016 at 07:45 AM This is hilarious. I'm crying Perhaps he was somehow aviation related? I'm wondering if the ordinary person would understand all that and know about the FAA etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Jucha 1343412 Posted September 2, 2016 at 08:54 PM Posted September 2, 2016 at 08:54 PM Good point Dace, geeze I hope he didn't just finish ground school or something. I got to the door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace Nicmane Posted September 3, 2016 at 08:07 AM Posted September 3, 2016 at 08:07 AM Poor guy, he must have been really upset if he didn’t take your order. Did he hear the readbacks as well or were those on your headphones only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton O'Malley 1262267 Posted September 6, 2016 at 12:36 AM Posted September 6, 2016 at 12:36 AM Had a plane when I was controlling LGA_GND in NY's "Night in Queens event". I gave him taxiway instructions and he's taxiing all over the place. I wondered if he knew what he was doing: "[Callsign], where are you going?" "Runway 4" "Okay, but the ATIS says 13 is active and I gave you instructions to 13" "Ok, we'll go to 13" "Runway 13, taxi via ..." "Roger". On my ASDE-X I see him on/in the terminal and decided to ask "[Callsign], where are you?" "We're inside the terminal" "Taxiways were made for a reason..." C'mon fellow pilots.. If you don't understand something, please, please, please ask. I'm a pilot on VATSIM, it can get confusing, but why not ask? Taxiing thru a terminal building isn't the smartest thing to do, right? - Anton O'Malley Proud DeltaVA pilot S2 controller at ULLL and ZNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted September 6, 2016 at 01:16 AM Posted September 6, 2016 at 01:16 AM sounds more like you had a troll that was just there to do whatever he wanted, not a case of not knowing where to go. in these cases, if there is no traffic, i just lettem find their way to the [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igned runway. when there is traffic, "stop stop stop" followed by progressive instructions. if it continue, .wallop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton O'Malley 1262267 Posted September 6, 2016 at 03:07 PM Posted September 6, 2016 at 03:07 PM sounds more like you had a troll that was just there to do whatever he wanted, not a case of not knowing where to go. in these cases, if there is no traffic, i just lettem find their way to the [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igned runway. when there is traffic, "stop stop stop" followed by progressive instructions. if it continue, .wallop I luckily didn't have lots of traffic at that time, at the end I just said "taxi to 13, via any taxiway you like, just hold short of all runway and advise". I guess he was a troll, but I couldn't focus on him too much... - Anton O'Malley Proud DeltaVA pilot S2 controller at ULLL and ZNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bresnick Posted September 7, 2016 at 11:18 PM Posted September 7, 2016 at 11:18 PM (edited) . Edited October 7, 2021 at 03:56 AM by Alex Bresnick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredric Greenblott 1346549 Posted September 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM Posted September 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM Heard this a couple days ago while I was waiting for takeoff clearance out of KLAX... Probably the funniest thing I've seen as well. Me: SWAXXX, holding short 25R at Bravo, ready to go. ATC: SWAXXX, cleared for takeoff runway 25R. Traffic will be a Delta 757 landing on the parallel. Me: Roger, cleared for takeoff, 25R, SWAXXX. DALXXX (on a 5 mile short final): Hello LAX tower, we are clearance for landing 25R. ATC: DALXXX, negative, go around, landing runway is 25L. DALXXX: (Says nothing and proceeds to swerve over to 25L) ATC: DALXXX, go around. DALXXX: Negative. *Disconnects* ATC: *Speechless* System Specs: Core i7-7700K OC'ed to 5.0GHz, 16GB Ballistix DDR4-2400 RAM, OC'ed NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 80GB HDD + 1TB External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Wachters Posted October 3, 2016 at 09:39 AM Posted October 3, 2016 at 09:39 AM Me: SWAXXX, holding short 25R at Bravo, ready to go.ATC: SWAXXX, cleared for takeoff runway 25R. Traffic will be a Delta 757 landing on the parallel. Me: Roger, cleared for takeoff, 25R, SWAXXX. DALXXX (on a 5 mile short final): Hello LAX tower, we are clearance for landing 25R. ATC: DALXXX, negative, go around, landing runway is 25L. DALXXX: (Says nothing and proceeds to swerve over to 25L) ATC: DALXXX, go around. DALXXX: Negative. *Disconnects* ATC: *Speechless* So where is the funny part? The title on this must be: "The most annoying things you have ever heard while controlling." Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Warren Posted October 17, 2016 at 02:43 PM Posted October 17, 2016 at 02:43 PM I realize IFR procedures can sometimes be a bit "challenging", but I guess there are inherent expectations with the simplicity of VFR...... Aircraft: Nxxxx request vectors for VFR approach Me: (Deep sigh) Nxxxx Make left traffic runway 16R, report downwind Aircraft: Roger quasi repeats instructions Aircraft diverts off path to airport, circles around a bit.... Aircraft: Approach, Nxxxx is unable to locate downwind. Me: Facepalm and chuckle. Took a little more work and some hard heading issuance but, got him where he needed to be in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Majerczuk Posted October 17, 2016 at 09:25 PM Posted October 17, 2016 at 09:25 PM This situation happend fairly recently.It was during one of my ''One off'' shifts on Eurocontrol Islands(EURI_FSS) Me - EURI_FSS (UIR ATC for BIRD EISN EGPX EGTT) ABC123 - Flying from EDDF to KSFO Me - ''ABC123 Eurocontrol Islands'' About 30 sec pause Me - ''ABC123 Eurocontrol Islands'' ABC123 - ''Eurocontrol Islands this is ABC123, sorry sir I got to disconnect quickly my Goldfish is drowning!!!'' ABC123 - Disconnected I though I have heard it all on VATSIM.As we can see you learn something new everyday! VATCAN Controller | CZVR Home Controller Formerly VATEUD ATC Department Lead PID/CID 1091056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Wachters Posted October 20, 2016 at 08:37 AM Posted October 20, 2016 at 08:37 AM Yesterday after 15min sending .contactme I got this reply: RYRxxx: First i have to do the dishes then i will contact you Same session 10 min later, other pilot: I put him on a 30° intercept for the LOC and cleared him for the ILS25L. He overshoots the LOC and proceed for about 5 miles. ME: Right heading 360 maintain 3000, what's the reason for the overshoot?Pilot: Unable to arm localiser or approach button for ILS. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimo Koolen Posted October 20, 2016 at 01:36 PM Posted October 20, 2016 at 01:36 PM You could have contacted a SUP for the first one, I suppose. ACCNL4 (Training Director) - Dutch VACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Wachters Posted October 20, 2016 at 01:54 PM Posted October 20, 2016 at 01:54 PM I don't think so..... https://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=71968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Nicholas Cavacini Posted October 20, 2016 at 02:21 PM Board of Governors Posted October 20, 2016 at 02:21 PM Not to get off topic but yes you can. Once you enter into controlled airspace, A9 ceases to exist and B3 is what covers it. You do not need to wait 30 minutes to request a SUP and we do not need and are told to not give 30 minutes. The specific amount of time is at our discretion based on different factors but 30 minutes is not required. Saying that you either have to or can give up to 30 minutes was based on an incorrect interpretation of the code of conduct. NickVice President - SupervisorsVATSIM Board of Governors Contact the Supervisor Team | Could you be a Supervisor? Unless otherwise stated, opinions are my own and not representative of the official opinion of the VATSIM Board of Governors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hopkinson Posted October 20, 2016 at 11:30 PM Posted October 20, 2016 at 11:30 PM Not to get off topic but yes you can. Once you enter into controlled airspace, A9 ceases to exist and B3 is what covers it. You do not need to wait 30 minutes to request a SUP and we do not need and are told to not give 30 minutes. The specific amount of time is at our discretion based on different factors but 30 minutes is not required. Saying that you either have to or can give up to 30 minutes was based on an incorrect interpretation of the code of conduct. Additionally, once a Supervisor is called, they should attempt to make contact with the unresponsive party to ensure it isn't something silly like "the pilot forgot what his callsign sounds like" or "Couldn't hear ATC over the din of his own voice talking to his co-pilot" or other fun real-world reasons etc. Indeed a Supervisor might even do a full 30mins themselves. So if you wait 30mins before contacting a supervisor, and a supervisor gives mr unresponsive a 30min benifit of the doubt as well, that's 60 mins. Trent Hopkinson YMML. www.youtube.com/musicalaviator WorldFlight 2002,2008,2009, 2011, 2012, 2013 & 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimo Koolen Posted October 26, 2016 at 07:17 PM Posted October 26, 2016 at 07:17 PM (edited) Please never ever just read back a clearance without actually reading it... Edited October 27, 2016 at 09:37 AM by Guest ACCNL4 (Training Director) - Dutch VACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 26, 2016 at 08:05 PM Posted October 26, 2016 at 08:05 PM Please never ever just read back a clearance without actually reading it... while we're at it, please dont add identifiable information, shows disrespect to the user (CoC A1). thats why everyone else filters that out if you havent noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimo Koolen Posted October 27, 2016 at 09:38 AM Posted October 27, 2016 at 09:38 AM Sorry, was a little too quick with it. I've changed the image, hopefully this is better. ACCNL4 (Training Director) - Dutch VACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Zhong Posted October 28, 2016 at 10:00 AM Posted October 28, 2016 at 10:00 AM while we're at it, please dont add identifiable information, shows disrespect to the user (CoC A1). thats why everyone else filters that out if you havent noticed It may be poor etiquette, but if publishing a screenshot of a public chat is a breach of A1, then we might be a bit too sensitive. Surely there is a space that sits between breaking common courtesy and breaking the rules. David Zhong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 28, 2016 at 03:24 PM Posted October 28, 2016 at 03:24 PM doesnt matter how sensitive people are, its still seen as disrespectful. the whole reason this topic is still around is because people managed to keep it fairly civil, that changes when identities come out and people feel they need to defend themselves. we dont need things getting dragged into the gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 28, 2016 at 04:45 PM Posted October 28, 2016 at 04:45 PM while we're at it, please dont add identifiable information, shows disrespect to the user (CoC A1). thats why everyone else filters that out if you havent noticed It may be poor etiquette, but if publishing a screenshot of a public chat is a breach of A1, then we might be a bit too sensitive. Surely there is a space that sits between breaking common courtesy and breaking the rules. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call textual radio a "public" chat. It is only visible to those users on that channel and in range at the time. There is no public record of textual ATC comms. Posting a transcript on the forums exposes the user's mistake to a much wider audience and creates a permanent record. Note that I'm not making a statement about whether or not we're too sensitive about A1 violations ... on that topic my opinion is that it's usually better to err on the side of being too respectful rather than being too careless, especially in cases like this thread where the humor of the situation remains intact without any personally-identifying information. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Zhong Posted October 29, 2016 at 09:33 AM Posted October 29, 2016 at 09:33 AM I agree with both of you that de-identification is a great idea. What I'm getting at is that failing to do so should not constitute a breach of A1 and the possibility of disciplinary action, unless it is intentionally malicious (which it could be, if de-identification was not done after a request to do so). David Zhong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Warren Posted October 29, 2016 at 08:00 PM Posted October 29, 2016 at 08:00 PM For a topic with the term "funniest" in the title, it sure is serious in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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